Conlangery #14: Verb Framing and Postural Verbs

Conlangery #14: Verb Framing and Postural Verbs

Published: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 16:00:19 +0000 \

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utterance-id1 <unk> why do i said well <unk> <unk> they're hyper <unk> always thought well join but not catholic <unk> [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] mm mm mm mm <unk> about destructed languages people create george carlin would be news my lovely hoesch <unk> hello ah please less lovely but very intelligent coach [laughter] hello [laughter] oh how long are we doing today that was quite the fat candidate compliment oh well you know that topic [laughter] [laughter] okay alright what are we talking about today today yeah our topic [laughter] yeah i want to go into it well unless you have something else to talk about i don't have anything else to talk about we just go on to where talking today about <unk> framing and also posture all her so first of all verb framing third this is another short of type policy continuum you have languages that our satellite frame and languages that are for <unk> and this has to do with the way you described motion satellite frame language english is satellite right when you talk about motion and english usually the direction of motion is on a part of it outside or you go up you go down you know go and walk i like you walk out walking in that sort of thing i really like i had an english yeah hi spanish is an example uh more to the verb framed which <unk> framed languages [noise] put the [noise] the direction of motion on to suffer so spanish has a <unk> a verb should be uh that needs to go up and <unk> that means go down [noise] and uh so they use those more often than they use verbs that uh describe the manner of motion which would be like walking running swimming whatever yeah i do i have that basically right william [noise] yes i think so although i i find the terminology very confusing <unk> why would you call it so in shorthand you'd call it a v. language or an f. language right so uh verbal language or satellite language but who decided that when you're verbs indicated direction but not men or did that was a verb me kind of behavior [noise] and that's when you indicated you were ah type of motion within the verb but indicated the direction with propositions that that was somehow satellites because obviously if you want to say bomber ended up the stairs in english we say random and we use up the stairs and then in spanish you can say the same thing but you would simply make the manner of motion participle a verb yeah <unk> that's the satellite [laughter] right well it's too fat and why you wanna focus on and i guess yeah i saw they seen on that action i slept on the fast and then on the satellite so i guess we'll get equally <unk> right i i honestly i think probably the first person who decided to categorize the focal romance language [laughter] it just they just decided for some reason arbitrarily to define it based on the direction of motion when that was idiotic neither of them should have been called verb [noise] frame [laughter] yeah it is it but you're right it's a a type of logical thing because mostly the germanic language is our satellite framed mostly the romance languages of her brain but there's always a mix english even though it's mostly a germanic language has such an influx of french vocabulary we have things i could go in but we also have enter yeah [noise] so <unk> is a weird hybrid instead of <unk> [laughter] well [laughter] yeah and this is actually something something that can be very much affected by outside influences specifically because it has to do with the lectures economy right i think you're right yeah but i know <unk> much like fix john <unk> satellite family just because i i i <unk> i <unk> yeah see because and that's because romance roots in english tend to be tend to sound more formal just because of the latter used [noise] um <unk> [noise] i thought interesting example of something that sort of oddly in between and [noise] me and we'll we're talking about we're going back and forth about this in the dark but it seemed really interesting [noise] mandarin chinese has a very interesting field where it has vote verbs that describe manner and had had verbs that describe the direction yeah so <unk> you have <unk> in seattle are verbs <unk> me to go up to go down among other various meanings for those characters but um they also have this result of structure where you put you combined you can combined the manor verb plus the [noise] um directional verb plus lie which means calm or two which means go so direction relative to the speed [laughter] mhm [noise] so that it seems that seems on the surface to be sort of a um an s. structure because the actual verb is the <unk> so like i say if you i say <unk> lie which how means run jean means uh to go into something into a room or a building or whatever and lie means to calm so you could <unk> you could translate that in english as um came running in or something but it's sort of seems a little bit in between because you can also use those <unk> that just in code the direction it seems like mandarin sort of in between both worlds in that case yeah that was my thought it seems like men during this isn't some bizarre [laughter] no man's land in in the middle where you at all of the kinds of herbs but they get used in particular is i i think i agree now that you've talked about it more than i'm remembering all those years ago to taking chinese that it is more [noise] an f. language in the sense that the men are verbs tend to be the first in the series of pile up that happens there and those verb change chains [noise] yeah and they will more often use the men are verbs in a lot of cases but uh and a lot of times they'll have the mariners verb and a direction over like tongues yeah lay down but uh [noise] like the fact that they can also use just appeared rational verbs quite often actually [noise] right you know right [laughter] any case we we don't need to turn this into a a lesson to learn mandarin just yeah it was supposed to bring up as well as as an intermediary <unk> the reason i sort of added this to the list is i think in in my languages [noise] this is this one of these subtle lexical things that i'm most often reproduce exactly my native language react and without that came out yeah without thinking about it i <unk> my vocabulary too <unk> well yeah right and now i'm <unk> but that's <unk> and then my second language <unk> mainly because it's basically like spanish so i have them both but just because i copy something [noise] now see i don't know i've tried the think fully about how i want to do this sort of thing [noise] in languages i make but uh not <unk> i can't really think of examples of how i've made in an f. language or a v. language i can think of how you <unk> usually for motion all i use the word <unk> to move [noise] which is wonderfully uh which came from a time when i meant for that language to be a very very vague but now i said oh that sounds like you've succeeded with adverb [laughter] yeah [laughter] no i think that yeah that uh i may need to create some more verbs motion and actually think about whether i want it to be <unk> or in between yeah you can do it with like the ones that like now like <unk> and all the things they have <unk> [laughter] um but basically just to go and because uh <unk> try chase my [noise] it'd be kind of say credit directions coming hum so in that case that's why it's kinda the way it is kinda like fish i don't think you really need to <unk> go and um a lot of languages that have that distinction speakers <unk> ten have tendencies to [noise] not use it a hundred percent in that particular way my how what's your not i mean they <unk> <unk> well i am i being crazy [laughter] [noise] well i can see being the <unk> it's not going to come and go into <unk> oh those are off in the same room with some other i yeah i um [laughter] [noise] <unk> they're similar meanings <unk> directions to me now [noise] well <unk> well there are other ways you can mark that direction analogy well of course right [laughter] yeah [laughter] there's this is very actually a lot that unusual to have um a for that has two seemingly that's who meanings that go an opposite ways that's true [laughter] that's like a whole topic on the baby about that [noise] whatever [noise] about like where it's at either on off her head [noise] yeah what's your favorite of [noise] thanks people oh crazy [laughter] but [noise] back on this um william you suggested doing this topic as well as something <unk> i i wanted to bring him one one last bit of craziness that you couldn't think about four [noise] verbs of motion okay and this dubbed tells a little bit with some of the stuff we're gonna talk about with the the <unk> the slavic languages are notorious for driving english speakers or even any speakers of nonsensical languages bonkers [noise] um when it comes to verbs emotion you can find entire books just helping people cope with russian verbs of motion [laughter] 'cause they always include the means of travel there's no generic word for to go in russian huh [laughter] <unk> <unk> you have to go by foot and you have to go by transport more over you have to separate lexical items for each of those so that's for [noise] there's [noise] go in the sense of heading towards the destination and then there's go in the sense of speaking of a general activity or making a return trip or whatever so these tend to be called the definite an indefinite for example [noise] so i'm going to school would be different from i go to school as a statement for regular habit [laughter] yeah i can see that drives me insane [laughter] and then [noise] different languages might in code um where are you are now versus where you're going versus the destination so there's uh uh uh suing language called <unk> that i have a grammar for that has twelve verbs which between them cover go and <unk> [noise] what about the language is i've heard of that <unk> the only absolute direction does that you know of um having anything any differences in the verbs of motion simple with that that is an excellent question too which i do not know the answer [noise] that would be an interesting thing to look at though mhm [noise] right it was i just wanted to i just want to do to bring out you know that last bit of of of of craziness that there's there's so much you can do in terms of motion that in code different sorts of things yeah there's with them as opposed to sticking them outside some other way [noise] but yeah i'm kind of a fan of the outside just 'cause i'm kind of <unk> [laughter] i haven't caught man tell so [laughter] um well uh then why don't we talk about these <unk> verbs now okay i haven't really looked up much about it so maybe you can explain it a little bit <unk> okay so [noise] when linguist speak of verbs of posture um sometimes they get called position <unk> in the literature so if you go position over she'll find a lot of these [noise] um some language is a very simple english is very simple little talk about the cord there and then you can get some magnificent lee involve languages in central america especially the mind languages may have hundreds of <unk> [noise] so the simplest course at a position olds are to sit to stand and to lie mhm [noise] right so they're doing a little bit of an coding both position and you're posture right if you're sitting you're standing in line down there's different postures um if you have four of these which lots of languages do they'll have a special position over for hang oh okay um and then you have weird misses that can happen to like english confuses it's native speakers and foreigners by having <unk> a diversion disease which sounds so much alike [laughter] that late and lie right which confuse the hell out of everyone [noise] to the point that so many people have merged them [laughter] right <unk> <unk> <unk> not seeing jam in keeping 'em a pie just like whatever the guy [laughter] right [noise] yeah but so <unk> that's the core sit stand late and maybe hang but then you can start elaborating miss and once again we have the situation we're at their features get rolled into the meaning of the verb so in a lot of um native american languages shape and and the <unk> especially get voted in in the verbs you might have something to <unk> if it's a long object or if it's a tall object or it's a bulky object [noise] um [noise] well [noise] kuala language has fourteen <unk> one of which is used just to describe the location of the whole the location of a whole yes that location africa <unk> correct [laughter] so so one thing i should say most of these verbs english doesn't use them this way most languages use these <unk> indicate location english we just use is most of the time he is next to the tree [noise] oh wow okay right oh okay right no it <unk> to <unk> we can use those but it was four simply interested in location we don't we just usually i think you use he sits or he stands where he lives <unk> more in literary language because because you don't want us to is over and over again yeah yeah it's on sale fashion does a little writers do not like to use is the <unk> too much they like to use quote unquote active er [laughter] yeah right like a <unk> like six next to the beach you know [laughter] oh all right anyway right so [noise] there so long flight objects thing down uh one of my favorite is some languages to distinguish something that's lying flat on it's front or flight on its back so it could be super <unk> or not my <unk> family member like or what [laughter] i can't either um [noise] so here's the i i was doing when i was doing research for this this episode i found a great paragraphs to talk about these things this is um a quick sentence about <unk> which is uh my in language and the guy said the semantics the position <unk> is characterize by the extensive <unk> of different types of information about the figure [noise] such as it shape texture size disposition and manner in which was put in that position [noise] while the top a logical relation is left implicit so all sorts of things are said about it except the location [noise] so um and and there may be many many many of these um two examples from <unk> our [noise] one <unk> which describes flat bottom objects sitting on a flat surface and the picture that went with that was a pan and my favorite was four of an <unk> object lying in the fall on that side [laughter] [laughter] not like some <unk> however bake crying in the car no yeah that's what i am [laughter] right [laughter] so another related language called <unk> ah <unk> um has sixteen <unk> just for sitting and it will mean things like sit cross legged sydney ling sitting while unwilling unwilling to stand okay sitting close to the ground with it like slightly spread <unk> willing to stand you should have to wait for that fish bags on the bus [laughter] hey that's a good point that's a good point um [noise] anyway so that's just an example right if you can pull sixteen things that have just sit then you have all sorts of things that they can go on there um one of my favorites and i forget which language in um only is used to describe the location of coiled up flexible things like snakes rope [laughter] ah [laughter] even mentioning that great i just love that yes hi may use that [laughter] i'm gonna have a common cold her that uh has a lot to do with <unk> that deals with snakes all the time and they have a pet oh good pie fill time <unk> yes yes [laughter] <unk> in the pre show we're talking about harry potter out partial tongue if anybody tries to construct it should have that yes indeed that'd be great well i don't really say we do say coiled sure but uh [noise] i would not say the fire hose is over there using a special verb to describe <unk> uh-huh lion wood or what some of these mind languages what if it if it's <unk> rather than like i'll i'll be laying around yes probably [laughter] [noise] that's <unk> again if you if anyone who's interested in playing with these you know <unk> position <unk> firms or or posture whole firms we'll find these [noise] what's interesting about them apart from including all it is fun stuff is they tend to be weird dramatically [noise] they don't have to be [noise] but sometimes they're conjugate it differently [noise] some of them are not allowed to have imperative them so they're not fully firms [noise] and a lot of the time it's really common for these to get <unk> aspect markers oh usually usually um in perspective man makes sense sure that's interesting i know that i i know that <unk> fur and sometimes turn into a local do hope <unk> like um spanish twist on it comes from i think a latin word winked stand does not sure i think you're right started [noise] so <unk> there's again we have this continuum of um obviously the mind languages are at the far end um english is near the bottom but there are some languages that have a separate verb which is use with propositions post positions you don't say he is next to the tree you have a special verb just for marking locations mhm [noise] so it's not as elaborate and right you don't use <unk> standard lie which english could do in which a lot of languages would use um it's just an altogether separate verb yeah we're <unk> [noise] which is one sense of vista and ah [noise] side and chinese and this is is an example but um yeah [noise] oh i could have now i am [noise] richard behind [noise] hopefully it will be <unk> would that be distinct from the normal <unk> [noise] it depends on how she wanted for my yeah that would be i mean i think that one either way i know and now they either case <unk> sure i'm trying to think if i can come up with the language and a human language an actual human language where he is a doctor has a verb but he is on the floor with not uh chinese actually tiny doesn't have the fur he has a doctor <unk> sure <unk> four he is on before ah side lower huh sure but but [noise] i'm going to argue that die is acting like a verb here mhm [noise] what you mean that it's not acting like i've heard that it <unk> it is the boys were trying to figure out a situation where there is no verbal element between subject and proposition phrased indicate location oh you mean no there's no none at all no work for a location right now that's an interesting idea um [noise] well okay i i don't know enough languages i tell ya well i have now yeah how <unk> how long enough that aspect i don't know much about athletic but i have one well when i had a little bit of arabic don't <unk> if you're watching and you know <unk> <unk> yeah if you know a language that does have a <unk> a lover but has no low could do that had no verb for ah what we would put for a lucrative expression but us now yeah [noise] um and they <unk> <unk> oh no like guys kinda yeah like well maybe if i'd land and they had like teary steaks and all conversation so i didn't actually outlook physically i might snow what [noise] what's your <unk> but it's not good for me talking about it 'cause i don't actually know what's going on as it hi brandon actually happening down [noise] is it like russian where it does have a <unk> but it off [noise] zero couple guys it's cop you law copy law [noise] um cat [laughter] uh yes i think that's right you you how often have simple nominal predicates don't necessarily have to have uh have to have a copy liver huh yeah [noise] but <unk> typically what happens is languages without a copy of it is it's zero in in simply use but in particular tense is their aspects something might be resuscitate it to be used for for clearly yeah i'd heard that russian in prison [noise] has it usually method but in other cases used or something like that yes i think that's right i think we have covered this topic pretty well honestly move along to our future <unk> today which do not pay attention to the spelling is brown and yummy [laughter] it looks like <unk> this is okay right off the bat [laughter] both me and be i don't like using see or the south how like if she ever token did it uh and it caused his hands a lot of problems because so many people said <unk> they don't get along [laughter] right so if you are a science fiction and fantasy author inventing a language to maybe you should avoid see for <unk> for the <unk> yeah i can see why plate will do it but but for anyone who knows latin latin and damp that with that feel free [noise] in my opinion to u._c. to be the case [laughter] [noise] latin well that's in a different deal if you have a historical reasons for it too then that's fine but i just i just don't like it in general because i prefer um <unk> to be very clear but let's actually move on to the <unk> the the whole language itself because this by our misgivings and actually the roman his nation if you look through all of it despite the the one thing that me and be i don't like it's actually very good i think it makes sense yeah <unk> well i <unk> i <unk> i'm sorry hello [laughter] well okay well right how about if they if they <unk> do a pot cast on remnants asian and we'll talk about [laughter] the whole career issues with see 'cause i know i can think of good uses for it but in general his his stuff is not bad and the how they get higher language if you are going to actually we won a review the whole language and language itself is very good so like one of the things uh you can call me um you you can call me a new or whatever i always look at the hall if you <unk> you know that's like the surface thing but he does a very good job and this is something that he does throughout the language is he has created a language that seems there has it has some odd things in it but it seems plausible as a natural language and had a lot of stuff so and he has the russian <unk> short half <unk> half hour [laughter] okay how's that <unk> you don't need them all [laughter] having lots of <unk> lots of fouls is interesting and i like well it's one thing i've wanted to talk about is she has a very good complicated syllable weight first stress and a lot of people including me don't do much with stress in languages um yeah for me the most interesting thing about the voucher system is the uh conditioned variation in their realization oh yeah lots of people don't do that just because it's a pain so damn <unk> an invention language that is nice i actually found his syllable waiting system suspicious really offensive i don't think it's very realistic [noise] why on earth would another sound beyond hates the <unk> why should that syllable yet why should that vow and get special weight that that is one thing that looks tricky me so you <unk> and ah [noise] that's the way it may be this guy i'm guessing this guy's a native english speaker and st louis speakers find it very difficult to pronounce uh in an <unk> you may have been influenced by that [noise] i thought i don't think i <unk> yeah 'cause he's sweet [noise] i don't know for the happy if he's not a native english speakers english is exceptional because it's a great friend [noise] hanging on the internet [noise] writing [laughter] i'm gonna get [laughter] <unk> later [laughter] but um [laughter] in my opinion just 'cause i i kind of out of um <unk> and that's all i had a second <unk> factor which would make sense to me i don't i mean <unk> not my self esteem [laughter] like looking at <unk> i [noise] i put it this way uh i don't really take that much from reading about it and not actually [noise] now you should also go hand in hand with like prophecy and i've had three and a good way put <unk> down and read out oh it's kind of <unk> <unk> <unk> okay yeah i honestly if if people were to learn the language i would want some nicer way to mark accent it may be predictable but the rules are complex enough that you might be helpful to give some examples [noise] more than two or three [laughter] um okay of this stress system in in play [noise] well let's [noise] kind of get further in to the thing i saw that he has [noise] um [noise] he he does <unk> tense and aspect [noise] sort of mashed together the way a lot of the way that european language than to do but it seems like he does it no way that not quite so the european looking i'm not sure and i like his volition thing [noise] yeah the volition is an interesting mix of things um [noise] normally i would call some of what he's describing here control mm okay um but it's it's an interesting mix of um [noise] control and a certain degree of a <unk> um what's the word i'm looking for a certain description of how you feel about things right so there's there's the neutral volition mhm and then we have positive volition which i would talk about being hi control but he also says this form also often implies that the subject is happy about what he's doing it does it willingly so that's interesting um [noise] and then we have unintentional [noise] usually means the subject is doing something accidentally or is underwear of his or her actions that to me sounds like a classic low controlled situation [noise] but then he has this funky negative [noise] um <unk> the subject intended not to do with the verb describes but did it ended up doing it anyway my cat if [laughter] sure [laughter] yeah yeah that'd be [laughter] edible so how is the negative different from early on in control not fair because it's like he ran out of your way not to do it but somehow ended up doing it again [noise] doing it anyway right and it seems like that <unk> because it's not something you would use all the time well <unk> has a whole bunch of these um attitude verbs um so it it reminds me of that okay you know my opinion <unk> <unk> [laughter] so someone should translate oedipus rex into this language [laughter] much of greek drama involves people trying to avoid problems which they find that they can't avoid so does he actually ever say what he did in that in that clear term or is it mostly yeah he he was given uh there was um [noise] a prophecy that he was trying to avoid oh and invite trying to avoid that horse classmate <unk> [laughter] and then <unk> happy fun times subjects were different <unk> um [laughter] anyway these the devotional system is interesting yeah i'll take like good <unk> i mean now they're paying for it i can <unk> um [noise] <unk> [noise] not functional uh kept <unk> whatever facts practice productive wen hi em the only problem from from a naturalist standpoint is the marking is extremely lightweight and completely regular [noise] yeah right it's mark by the final vow all of the verb yeah man is he is fairly regular interface than his language well he has plenty of other irregularities elsewhere throughout the language is just happens he he but yeah he does have a lot of irregularities that particular marking is probably one of the most regular things he has a lot of sort of fun a logical <unk> mutations that a lot of uh [noise] things [noise] another thing i noticed it under number moving into now he has a conceptual number which actually can count for a whole lot of things what he's talking about but i think it's basically it includes <unk> and names like proper names and things that number to zero or less what i'm not sure how you use your normal that yeah and but the main use of it is to refer to the <unk> uh <unk> or the or something i'm thinking that's more of like he had the conceptual you tend to use like uh uh general number [noise] um i'm not so much <unk> if it is that <unk> and that i could say <unk> what you mean oh [noise] i mean it's a nice idea and it's definitely something that we can can <unk> think of anything that you don't yeah <unk> <unk> but it's not really meant to be yeah <unk> [noise] but at the same time it got now how <unk> that they should be tough especially my [noise] mhm [noise] i'm confused a little bit on his at positions are some of these <unk> actually <unk> whereas <unk> all of them are yeah maybe you should call them more like <unk> or something 'cause [noise] <unk> [laughter] just kidding [noise] um [noise] i mean kids [laughter] i called my <unk> well i started calling i'm <unk> but they're all south texas uh-huh same fang [noise] um and my both my <unk> crazy [laughter] it's nice that he uses phrase marking phrase <unk> case marking rather than [noise] uh agreement right so it's adjective <unk> case and uh position mhm [noise] so that's nifty um [noise] for so many of the things that are described in this document i would love more examples yes he is very very in depth <unk> uh description [noise] but is very light on the examples and also there's uh occasionally places where i'm not i'm wondering if he might be shaky on her <unk> her mythology [noise] um <unk> we have in one of the example sentences involves that causes <unk> which i think it's coming it's news that type policy oh why because the original subject so right when you have a transit a verb that's made into cost if you get like [noise] i ate the pizza or he made me eat the pizza so the original [noise] do are of divert the cosby he's typically in the new bleach case sometimes the direct object case sometimes they can sometimes see [noise] um instrumental case depending on the language [noise] but in this language it looks like you get to nominate tubes in a row [noise] yeah [noise] yeah like it's halfway it's halfway between <unk> and the synthetic [noise] oh okay [laughter] i'm not sure that seems unstable maybe i don't know what i would have rather had [noise] probably well are they saying this case i would hope it would be uh going to be highly 'cause he is right [laughter] um and and all that the rest [noise] [noise] yeah but um [noise] see what else was i thinking about the his four we use i'm still not exactly sure what the four we use our [noise] and his his way of doing <unk> [noise] where's that let me see [noise] so he has <unk> <unk> <unk> and in the accused if they tend to <unk> that's that's reasonable enough that's interesting yeah i i like these little things irregular thing is that the ads like so these reciprocal only in the click huge that will they bomb onto the for in in the other by the way it wasn't in the world is ex possessive case i'm pretty sure that there's another ah term for that but i don't know what it is i have no idea yeah we'll have to i i may look that up and see if there is an excellent but getting back to so many accused if they <unk> they <unk> <unk> and janitor if they can't [noise] so it's sort of one of these things that looks like um in the process of grammatical is asian or something [noise] yeah i would say so yeah so it's like i like the way he does things like that [noise] um i think we're pretty much through with this language yeah no it's fun it's fun it's fun to look at i must say the web page drove me a little bunkers it's driving me nuts erin nice [laughter] yeah it's a very nicely design but it's just that the moving navigation is oval distracting yeah like if i had a cat i'd be attacking my screen every time i saw it up and down [laughter] that's that's the only thing i have a problem with with the <unk> um [noise] supposed to be picky when you create <unk> um [noise] i'm sorry but it does [laughter] um when you click on ten years or be nine threat at last of the subjects asher instead of having to go through the whole last or quake hit again fine <unk> [noise] yeah oh actually if you move your mouth off to the right okay that early brace there's a toggle topics area <unk> oh <unk> that's <unk> [laughter] okay that makes sense but i never would have found that [laughter] oh <unk> oh you can fix the name of dish and when you go to the little deer icon [laughter] see [laughter] so this guy's a web designer too he must be yeah foreign threats verify p._a. she doesn't know that option [laughter] his ah his his little up here to work for me because they don't work and so um but uh yeah i think i read all steak why don't we i would most liked to see more examples of connected texas that's i think the only thing seriously missing from the <unk> language description i agree it's like there's a lot of pet laugh about it but [noise] <unk> <unk> it'll be like one of her page gift pack [noise] mhm oh my gosh [laughter] okay yeah yeah a few more examples of some of these complicated ideas would be helpful i think [noise] um but otherwise it's pretty good <unk> ah sorry for not posting a feedback thing um in the <unk> but i wanted to [noise] um there's one that i wanted to see there's a comment on the last episode <unk> <unk> and he says ah it's from permissible i'm gonna call it [laughter] i'm gonna say that's that's how you pronounce it yeah you can pronounce you can correct me if i'm wrong [noise] he said i notice you seem to be talking about a year <unk> as if it had only one script here's the normal script uh-huh no [noise] <unk> i've been there isn't the ornamental strip <unk> [noise] new van on uh while i'm a fan of the first second is quite beautiful we're somewhat labor intensive i too have found this on line i think looking at i i think for <unk> <unk> didn't we didn't somebody at least mentioned that there were multiples script style multiple styles of i._u._d. writing study develop um actually the member mentioning that i think 'cause i didn't realize it until i saw the comment um kind of <unk> you know i don't know i found that after i saw the comment but it tastes alphabet <unk> be out for that [laughter] oh i see i <unk> but see i'm <unk> looking at the page for the strip and seeing multiple different style like there was one that was more <unk> and one that was more <unk> well i don't know i didn't know they suck a time but i saw it afterwards it's kind of <unk> stuff and then cricket [laughter] so [noise] of course i never found that i don't know fade [noise] we'll have to <unk> uh uh half of see i don't know if we <unk> not enough [noise] but uh no thanks for talking to us about it from the email or on the comments yes we like we like people correcting er errors [noise] if we make the errors because it means they're listening to us yeah yes yes i feel so much like for the last episode we did that um after i got last now thanks like what i sat in what i intended to say ten we just say um i looked at it seems like episode eleven is our most popular so far uh besides that besides actually well typically like you have more views on earlier episodes but episode eleven has beat out the three previous episode [noise] and it came out we have the highest spike as well yeah we had a huge spike on that monday i wonder if that's going to continue or not we'll have to see what people were just completely unable to resist the word non configurations melody [laughter] we're like what is this [laughter] i didn't know what it means but i'm forced to be interested in it [laughter] i mean see i i thought that was that episode was not going to be so popular because it seemed like such a technical topic but apparently a lot of people like <unk> yeah but anyway [noise] why don't we i think we can wrap this up ah anybody have any last words nope yeah <unk> well how happy <unk> thank you for listening to con library you can find all our episodes and show notes as well as subscribed to r. i. too or are assess speeds through con larry dot <unk> dot org you can also like our face book page or follow at con library on put her if you would like to contact with corrections comets questions or suggestions or even suggest your own con lying is a future please a male <unk> at g. e. mail dot com or call in to our new voicemail lard three zero four eight seven three six to eight one [noise] we also have a handy suggestions more on our side or the music was created by then monday [noise] mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm

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  7. postural verbs
  8. verb framing

Conlangery Podcast/Conlangery 14 Verb Framing and Postural Verbs (last edited 2017-09-06 04:24:23 by TranscriBot)