Conlangery #18: Mood

Conlangery #18: Mood

Published: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:00:48 +0000 \

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utterance-id1 nah nah nah nah well come to call in library by george poorly <unk> mellowed across uh marie england bianca <unk> hello and she still in what thoughts and probably will being taught them for a while [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] i wonder if you did and i was like probably in wisconsin in the day he dies or something yeah so how many british stereotype should we work into this episode sure no no no i i adore digestive <unk> yeah well that i had a very good digestive sort of like the rest of your life yeah good i liked but just to [noise] i also like crown heights labor chris [noise] i don't like shit nah you haven't had the wrong huh oh wow but i don't like shit [noise] [noise] oh boy [laughter] okay so [laughter] uh so how many people have words <unk> caught like that one um i how many of them will have to keep her in that <unk> that's a good point but i didn't want huh wow some historical conga line might [noise] somebody needs to invent language perfectly <unk> expressed perceptions and feelings of british tucker hooligan [laughter] you know i <unk> i love watching chocolate but i haven't watched any soccer hoping he <unk> the our time here [laughter] probably more than a week i watched one day [laughter] i know i know um ah around the world um it's crazy [noise] i watched every single game <unk> hi guy i like my <unk> oh that's fun i like to watch the world cup i don't watch it all i don't watch every game well i know i think i yeah i mean a couple of <unk> kind of like at all any cat but we have to watch them anyway probably [laughter] so anyway we're going to talk but hey this is the last [noise] actually in our series on the holy curry oh herb herbs mood [noise] so where <unk> aspect have a lot to do with uh <unk> has to do with wins something i heard and aspect pets do with how your how you're praying and action occurring time uh mood is [noise] something a little bit mood i would say no [laughter] i know with um well has to do a whole lot of things but mainly it would look reality um an event with what i've been to vent the reality of an event and sometimes your attitude toward the map [noise] <unk> [noise] [laughter] [noise] yeah <unk> yeah <unk> yeah and one thing i wanted to say right off the top is we <unk> we <unk> should apply aspect as well and it should apply to a lot of other things in the language in in general i think in <unk> is that when we talk about mood when we talk about you know certain conventional little labels and we put on mood like indicative it jumped in and so it [noise] it can be not exactly that definition you fine and ah linguistics dictionary or whatever <unk> you know because sometimes anytime you have a list of things with bench maine what stick it doesn't work exactly the same way and every like kick it really tricky about that [noise] yeah [noise] well [noise] that's related to one thing i want to cover a little bit more later when we we we've covered a little bit more about mood i wanna come back to that because you have mood at something that is active and the lives <unk> [noise] it's something that simply required by the grammar so in in <unk> linguistic informal logic there's different kinds of myrtle modalities um and some linguists are moving a ways away from these but it's still useful to think about where you have um [noise] <unk> no doubt that right asked chinese thinker [laughter] thinking about right now my right or <unk> at this team make means you're talking about your judgment a reality right <unk> study of how we know thing so <unk> you something possible is it like clean did happen or not happened we're not sure that sort of stuff and then there's <unk> <unk> which is related to obligation and the seventies yeah [noise] so that's a useful distinction to make [noise] um and then it can get you know when you get weird little complications so we can [noise] can touch on a little bit [noise] so do you want to hit the list to some common middle stations first and then get too how those things are marked yeah [laughter] i actually uh uh i wrote down the list so few common thing that you will see our <unk> that just basically marketing a true statement this thing happened and there's some junk too which subject has a lot of different things but it generally sort of an <unk> <unk> <unk> <unk> oldest might happen ah there's <unk> which is um someone once something happened control something is possible something can happen <unk> <unk> something could happen <unk> if a certain <unk> and then imperative comparative is probably one of the most used moods other them straight indicative because imperative is of course direct man [noise] well that depends on the language kind <unk> that <unk> [noise] [noise] [noise] <unk> they had [noise] i have a hard time thinking now padded that's america down really [noise] yeah right <unk> right [noise] [noise] yeah like a burger king [noise] well i heard here [noise] seems to be <unk> that are there most of the <unk> yeah <unk> oh go ahead oh did you say the imperative often patterns like a mood and in you get some languages where your your mood marching gets co-opted for imperative [noise] in particular circumstance [noise] so ancient greek is really complicated even though it has certain kinds of um negative imperative that doesn't use them it uses a junkie different preference so there's this easy cross over there maybe an imperative isn't mood but it's like enough seems useful tunes [laughter] here yeah i can't understand it but it's kinda like you don't have a <unk> additional crush it where you've got children stinky shaved anyway mhm yeah it's <unk> sometimes we'll had or close to something you know or or if it will look like something else like uh i know spanish in perdue <unk> will look like uh junk too but oh there are also dedicated imperative war um and of course english saint lewis marks mood mostly what mogul adverb but then uh we have <unk> yeah [noise] [laughter] [laughter] anyway it's just [noise] um <unk> well actually problem a bird strictly i don't like it [laughter] [noise] i agree especially <unk> each language tendency carpet things its own little way [noise] [noise] uh-huh [noise] yeah [noise] well let's go let's talk a little bit about morphology then we come back to the the slippery slope removed okay so i'll just sit out a few and making making the list one is to have an entirely different system [noise] countries getting the verb if you do that whether you have an entirely different countries <unk> like a lot of the new european languages or if you have a new gluten gluten <unk> language you might have a separate subjective marker [noise] um [noise] uh ancient greek and sanskrit are fun because they have entirely separate conjugation pretty indicative of junk too and the opposite too [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] [noise] which the opposite of disappear pretty quickly and creeks so by the time you get to the new testament this long gone [noise] except for a few set for instance um so that that you can use adverb for some of the things like he perhaps <unk> eating a pizza [noise] um <unk> mogul verbs are very popular all over the world no certainly the dramatic languages are fond of them [noise] oh really [noise] yeah [noise] [laughter] just from english with bush yeah [laughter] so here's here's another we'll talk a little bit about some slippery nuts [noise] english and dutch both do something that i consider a little bit perverse but apparently it happens all over you you hit it had some <unk> that can be used a boat for morality and core evidence reality show for example english ma you can say you must be here at twelve the on take mogul or you could step outside your front door and see that the sidewalk like wet and you can say it must have rained gotten sucked into show evidence <unk> yeah apparently he follows the same way [noise] this sort of hanky panky between mood and evidence is apparently fairly common cross different languages [noise] but if you're inventing a <unk> and you're new and you invent a mobile verb much [noise] make sure you distinguish the meanings this year [noise] [noise] that's a really weird thing than english in touch too [noise] yeah or you could you could <unk> i mean that because it doesn't have to be like you can have the uh somewhere feature without mapping it directly to the same thing i think that was right in fact you should do it that way if you're going to use that teacher or if yes if you care about not reproducing english <unk> [laughter] there you go well i'm on my conscience matt i spent like a whole week or amount or <unk> oh of course don't remember anything <unk> five years ago or whatever [laughter] [laughter] but [laughter] did anyone's head explodes during that week [laughter] no it was like my <unk> my <unk> my god [laughter] oh dear [laughter] well like my <unk> my french smashed [noise] he wasn't that bad i had a very good <unk> also share my mind people kept asking gets [noise] [laughter] <unk> now i'm <unk> i'm fine thanks earning [laughter] [laughter] yeah uh i don't blame them it it does get a little cookie um one thing i kind of um [noise] <unk> now but i <unk> no lighten up about it 'cause my only my only example would be spanish tradition how mood interacts with additional statement [laughter] pick a rank like it's kinda like <unk> yeah i mean i my my second <unk> stole something awful fast great [noise] i'm not sure about bash get all the way i used to <unk> and <unk> <unk> <unk> <unk> oh i think that's one possibility or spanish but <unk> had actually several different possibilities based on how likely the event yeah yeah um [noise] right well thanks to ancient greek i have a very large [noise] in my brain their exist the platonic ideal a good half dozen different kinds of conditional forums all those her indicated in greek [noise] buy a combination of mood um and <unk> particles in both the claws and then then cause [noise] so there's no future lesson you vivid future more vivid contra factual contractual that so there's quite a lot there and that's certainly one common uses mood you know [noise] [noise] now i should say that that some people indicate contra factual conditions not with a different mind but they use an entirely different words <unk> if <unk> so you don't have to reproduce the whole english or the whole european conditional system and that you sit in the mood to do these conditions and then there are other languages that that don't you think we should send you your conditions at all you have to rely on context figure them out [noise] tape basically good thanks [noise] serious yeah the whole spectrum it there and i [noise] i assume various adverse to other things to help cleared up so one thing i wanted to say about the opt to do well in in india european languages the opted to can be used indicates something you want but it is far far more likely to be used as a sub jumped in the past huh okay that one of those messy thing her [noise] that's right because in ancient greek and i believe [noise] i'm not going to say that okay so ancient greek [noise] the verb system is primarily about aspect [noise] the only time you were to pass to tend to mean a pastor indicative in all other mood including imperative they are simply aspect [noise] so you have your president which is your <unk> and you're arab switches you're affected them [noise] so you're subjective it's weird because it's purely a special with no time so [noise] i know there are other things the option to can do that have nothing to do with wish and probably it started out of life indicating something other than wish mm yeah [noise] i mean like one of those [noise] things that ends up picking up meaning that or or <unk> original or it we're in general meaning sure well just you know my the thing that i like so much that grammar is born hungry you some new piece of grammar is finally born in the language it immediately started looking for on uncontrolled semantics base to take over and certainly the mood to do that <unk> well that's kind of shocked last comments like <unk> getting uh sharing common i'm <unk> oh well there are a lot of them are a lot of them um uh let me look up oh yeah yeah well [noise] one that's pretty common that you'll see it's adjusted which comes up a lot and things like classical arabic and a few others medic languages and it's mostly use um <unk> it's another sort of wishing kind of mood um [noise] <unk> it just to sort of wishing for someone else to do something you're you're you're asking somebody do something right right like uh uh soccer imperative right and then it gets confused 'cause what is the first person imperative me [laughter] not our time [laughter] <unk> <unk> and then there's i forget cornered him i forget the name of that mood [noise] right so you can get things that are called mood dinner only <unk> you know restricted to particular persons <unk> [laughter] so for me i'm used to looking at at languages that maybe you only have one in um non indicative moose and she gets called the eerie alice which can cover such an enormous range of saying oh yeah uh [noise] be clear <unk> basically <unk> most basic <unk> any event or which the ah true somebody's not no right [noise] it it's either false or you don't know whether it's [noise] [noise] [noise] well see but it depends on the language you could [laughter] that's confusing [laughter] right what is used for it's gonna be different from language language and and what i love in some languages are completely eerie alice obsessed and use it or not just situations that you're not sure about [noise] but they are obligatory early used with all questions and all negative steak ooh okay right that makes [noise] right so the current language i'm working on now i said that sounds fun subject that with it as well so needless to say there's a lot of marketing and language i can see that although there are there is a um like it in <unk> not sure um some languages have that [noise] but yeah you can be reality for just about anything that way i guess well that's the sort of the catchall yeah [noise] it's just but as you said you find when things are done say this sub jumps it well that's highly misleading yeah 'cause most people who they think's the junk they think back to their spanish or german class or whatever and they're like oh but you don't use it with negatives the questions that make them that's right so you have to be careful with some of these these terms yeah which is something i'm curious about what the subject the mood in my area or hiking renaming it you're real us or something else you know <unk> it works mostly like a subject but i'm not sure because that language also has several other movies i don't know i should call on this subject right um not be as a little confusing <unk> early in the language we're trying to decipher it it was confusing people like this is this uh jumped too i'm like no i don't think this is this a jumped him now it turns out that all from recalled the does the junk too but in many places it simply be considered a dependency murder [laughter] okay [laughter] so if you use a mogul verbal like mush dean <unk> the <unk> the control the verb has to be in what's called the jumped too yeah [noise] yeah but but that is not normally that we think it's a drunk to working working and you know european languages so you know that amount uh that i wouldn't call that er that man i wouldn't even call and i think you've got that right except that it can also be used her mooney kinds of things oh right so that that's where we get confusing it and [noise] this is one of the points i wanted to bring up and then match the beginning [noise] here's your sub junk to green or is it locked down that <unk> can you use this junk to freely anytime you wish to indicate uncertainty or is it simply a requirement of certain kinds of supporting the clock is my favorite example is always in ancient greek because you know homer you you just look at the conditional sentence or have a but we'll during friday of options available jumped <unk> dumped the junk particle no one knows what it means aptitudes mixed with the junctures in teachers all sorts of craziness and by the time you get to play too it's all locked down these little refined <unk> subtleties of mood and new ones that were available to homer had been obliterated by the time you get too much later great [noise] so in that case is is it really it said junk too or is it just a dependency mark that i hear ya question so i did a little research on this before we started and we have people who insist that mood independence e._r. separate and other people that britain entire books claiming that there [laughter] mentally identical right so it's an open question the three of us are not going to answer but it's something people should think about when they're investing their languages [noise] we're not <unk> i don't know how this question [laughter] [noise] um right now but we're just shouldn't junkies on what i try i try and like you said at the <unk> <unk> <unk> like kind of pressure donald on i have three <unk> or i don't know because i know in english [noise] we're like it was it was replaced by uh mogul her a long time ago but but we have just the best chocolate lab dying <unk> [noise] yeah but um <unk> yeah but i don't know the language that gaining at william you know about i i have no idea [laughter] <unk> right right at her i would probably look or a mode o one k because usually that's just a general language something well up here with uh sort of uh analytical more quality before it um for medical wise right i'm trying to think uh i think the art to <unk> in the romance languages aren't the conditional [noise] development of highly produced a pair of <unk> like oh man uh i haven't had somewhere that well i have a textbook <unk> old proven salt but i'm not going to go look that up now but i'm pretty sure that's the case where you had a a model situation of plus some weird mood of have turned into the conditional when all got glob together uh i i'm thinking so because i noticed that uh the spanish future cat comes from we're well how bad a which which got stuck together and i think that the conditional has summer where um <unk> and not you don't take off right yeah i uh i <unk> i wanted i think yeah that's how yeah that's <unk> that the the same that's why i'm thinking that it's related to the theater 'cause both those you know take this off because hey or something like after the verb that got <unk> <unk> we have we have historical evidence where we can see a movie developing [noise] um but i don't know we have any right now that what you're saying i kind of answered my question you know <unk> <unk> pay my <unk> now [noise] um [noise] [noise] right i really don't know that much <unk> ah you're getting some weird <unk> <unk> <unk> okay anyway um tried profane static [laughter] [laughter] oh anyway [laughter] mine late [laughter] except she picked up a set of charging her trans atlantic like okay anyway ah oh well we're mood [laughter] we're talking about yeah we were talking about food and then the question of mood versus dependency marketing that's true um yeah so we can't really say as williams academics we're going back and forth about whether they are the same thing work <unk> right so but it's an interesting thing to <unk> think about whether you would want to sit her at the same or different in your language while you're [laughter] yeah right so i have ah in my current language my i have this i've been calling it eerie alice marking on in the show but really it's just a dependency marker that also happens to always be used <unk> negative statements and questions mhm it's it's not so jumped to it all it in you know <unk> <unk> <unk> and stuff at all um those are you know manage with adverb sir [laughter] let's see what i do i got an adverb i've got a verb <unk> and <unk> oh <unk> oh yeah that's another important thing actually think about it um uh something that we should mention that we should uh <unk> hey in regards to all three of the thing is that very often the pam current in either [laughter] aspect and mood hey language you'd multiple <unk> multiple um strategies marking any of them and mood especially you can have their language it has <unk> rules and uh <unk> that have a <unk> right i would expect that that is the most common pattern to have a few moods and then a whole bunch of model or me or adverb [noise] i'm trying to think i'm trying to think of a native native a natural language with a very large number [noise] and i can easily thinking languages are ridiculous numbers of tensions are aspects but i have a harder time concocting a list of languages with you know a bunch of an unusual number of moves in by that by which i mean um things that are guam down to the verb rather then all of these different things combined mm i don't know any sugar or caffeine i'm richer [laughter] [laughter] yeah yeah [noise] i can't really think of any i should have gone like oh well [laughter] should should take a look at that but you know they sure are all you can have multiple fan i think that that certainly something that i have failed to help them to think of in the past um i'm sure a lot of <unk> they'll think of this <unk> when they are constructing our languages <unk> uh any really anything you can have more <unk> more than one right huge um but the tenth aspect of mood definitely have more than one strategy marking any of those [noise] <unk> yeah like i i think i need to go back over i because i only have my five work logical i haven't thought of other ways of doing <unk> or anything like that maybe i'll i had some adverb or [noise] yeah [noise] um hi [laughter] [noise] that's true yeah i think a lot of people probably don't think about <unk> and the upper part of it i think it has to do with um and yonkers has said is it makes one of the brain start to leak out to use a little bit it's hard to think about it [laughter] and they didn't say that [noise] yeah but see that's what i liked about it is that you said it's <unk> difficult i'm jay <unk> [laughter] okay well okay [laughter] i like i i like it or that because you can make you think in different ways so hey well designed mood um will necessarily not <unk> not really follow the dictionary definitions of the different mood terms that you're touching to it because you will use your mood <unk> wage and it's like it's very interesting to try to figure out how you're going to use your mood in different ways yeah i think for a language like ancient greek telling people to show junkie means that something is unreal somehow does people a disservice to not like i said you know homer there's weirdness and you're gonna have to confront that but in classical <unk> it's very routine is very dramatic aligned very fixed [noise] and that's it [noise] when you use this kind of claws you must use this kind of mood period and a story that's it yeah shit magic arise [noise] <unk> oh go ahead [laughter] a lot of languages i know that that's true and spanish when certain constructions you have to use the junk yep right and then when you tell people oh it means it then the opposite the difference between the kind of mean you're just confusing people yeah i i found it very confusing for a long time because i did not make um be a tent how the dictionary definition related to you know what i was reading in class now <unk> <unk> right now i'm a merchant spanish [noise] sorry i can't get gas and help her now [laughter] everybody has some trouble with subject yeah i mean when i first came here [noise] <unk> <unk> i miss you know just take a guess now and a cat that much and i and like <unk> you don't want to come from [laughter] and then there are patterns right and it just kinda <unk> yeah did you learn them right you should just i mean no one likes to see here's your <unk> here's your charge up six kinds of conditions you have to learn but that she didn't we didn't learn that [noise] then you'll be happy and you can move on and you don't have to worry about these these subtle weirdness there's that that you're supposed to interpret when that had non and play anymore yeah and you know the uh the only time when it might come up to the definition is like you mentioned it you're <unk> junk do <unk> or is it always bound to some other structure in in spanish and it it can be free you can use a subjective by itself i mean may something happened but um it's almost like an <unk> in the in the way it works that way he can you <unk> and <unk> [noise] <unk> yeah i went to college and audit or or subjective type situations but you know like you were saying in ancient greek there's a bunch of mood that only up here in in certain construction right so <unk> ultimately the spanish ship junk too goes all the way back to an <unk> so what happened is [noise] where greek has uh jumped have been an option too and where they dig sanskrit has the same so jumping up to do [noise] latin how's the future and it's a jumped too so <unk> wasn't into european needs to jump to enlighten became the future and what was the opposite do you need to european in latin became the <unk> the subject too [laughter] so this is another one those instances in it and i mentioned in the last show where and ten [noise] where the future is the movies to potential so you get this crossover that happens hi tea and and one of their pizza weird dated and i ran across while doing some research for the show is it for some reason [noise] your <unk> however you want to think about it and <unk> aspect sometimes are marked the tank and once again ancient greek comes to the whore which uses <unk> particles listening in perspective and change the past additional activity [noise] and then the very closely related west greenland <unk> minded as [laughter] as a marker uh both the same marker for a future obligation but also for habit that that oh no [laughter] yeah i saw it in a show that's on like how does how is that possible really so [laughter] <unk> aspect and some sort of your real us yeah yeah bye bye bye very closely related by the way he meant <unk> not really at all what <unk> what do you actually know about <unk> like <unk> [laughter] well i'm just i'm just saying some people who are less um [noise] who who who don't exactly know what we're talking about <unk> might be but okay right now we're very hurricane far away [laughter] <unk> [laughter] [laughter] <unk> right and then they record map and <unk> like probably around green [noise] [laughter] and the fact that greek greek isn't indoor european nah i don't know why but i i i pick west greenland <unk> other people may not know much about that language but yeah yeah i i understand that but my point is it not just the weirdest greek seems pop up all over the place uh <unk> quite land and shit it's odd but it appears in other languages as well not just me too yeah that is what i understand although i don't have examples from the paper i read oh okay um [noise] so probably what people need to do and we do not need and we don't have time to go through a list of every possible <unk> available to language [noise] you know do do a google search on eerie hours mood and you get all sorts of [noise] we could be articles and papers and [noise] different ways you could be used to so that seems like a good way to go i mean thinking about it well kind of like a lot of <unk> [noise] i mean john <unk> like when our crazy laughing now honest it's like oh my god <unk> cause you'll probably end up being a family [noise] after my comment one [laughter] yeah [laughter] yeah just um okay yeah chess [laughter] look at the less but when you decided on what mood you want to have to think about how they're going to be years especially probably wouldn't you're going through your <unk> your grammar [noise] think about in different construction how you want what mood interact with the the syntax and matt <unk> oh the <unk> right [noise] [noise] but uh with that i think we can probably and on that and move on to our church on line which in south originally [noise] um yeah i burn outs that right we have always been at war with so yeah [laughter] [laughter] but uh i have a little uh clip that was actually sent to me um the creator of this language ah what's her name i didn't work down her name how <unk> what's her name was what brings her [noise] you know it's like <unk> yeah um yeah the rebecca hi [noise] my email on my email uh i my ah rub rebecca burns <unk> but she sent me this um you may recognize you may have heard of or uh let me make sure you guys you're [noise] you know [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] so that was that you got there yep yeah okay that was her saying uh welcome to con <unk> constructive language people create um that's my <unk> line for the popular show that i had people <unk> like but um after i that i actually looked at i actually how some information on it and uh well the the language uh fairly interesting so did you guys get a chance to take a look at all the stuff i did i totally get nine [laughter] [noise] well [noise] give me a break interesting [laughter] yeah [laughter] <unk> [laughter] i can do to <unk> [laughter] so it's an interesting language what we've seen so far it's gotten sort of not watching phonology which she openly admit to and she <unk> somewhat personally in my opinion [noise] um decided to follow the spanish spelling habits [laughter] so i mean you have an invented language that is written do it we're just covered by spanish missionaries [laughter] oh yeah i know that that kind of i would not do that [noise] that she'd deliberately she deliberately did that 'cause she likes i would look like help our language you can do what she wants fall oh man yeah <unk> looks like it was discovered by centuries spanish because it had <unk> right yeah so um but yeah um i did not so it's i'm not that familiar with uh with marijuana and all that she i didn't act like a couple of my my <unk> but i do see i have seen some thing so she has a whole so this is a documentary on our block which i don't know the best way to do it it's a good way to resent things but not necessarily <unk> you might think is that where the climate that <unk> grammar right but so even though there are some things that are <unk> there are other things that are not so for example there are interactive <unk> description above phonology although the most the the last post on her blob i i i don't think i could find a single each active in that so she may have backed off of that [noise] so even though the phonology it's somewhat not what's like the grammar frankly reminding more of [noise] some language from the pacific northwest [noise] [noise] i i i noticed that alters how awful like are they <unk> right in my <unk> only gonna what's what's off of the native language to the pacific northwest [noise] oh yeah for medical information [noise] and i'm not getting a novel barrel [laughter] i don't know i'm just i'm i i downloaded grammar of iraqis are aging sure no yeah totally kids <unk> kids in school cure all learning st louis <unk> [laughter] [laughter] no no i'm not <unk> well right now but uh if you say <unk> <unk> <unk> <unk> <unk> they're not right [laughter] [laughter] oh but um [laughter] everybody loves american but yeah she has these transformer <unk> or [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] well so this is somewhat um utilize taking but other native language students too is you don't say i am a noun or i become a noun or i make something that now and there's always these surveys no processes that are used instead [noise] um we have a lovely sampled here we stop making corn liquor [laughter] so that's very central american um how is this like killing the leash mesh right so current liquor is down and then you have this <unk> this you're making it and then the rest of the normal verbal morphology right right [noise] so [noise] that's very typical of those languages um she's uh fifteen <unk> um and they again are verbal thing [noise] um [laughter] you'll have a <unk> like <unk> for a house and then all sorts of things are suffix to that and she had just example [noise] ah well that's nice <unk> which means i'm in physical contact with the house so she has this lock it indicates [noise] sort of surface contact <unk> which is which pop up across languages on the planet which is sort of interesting [noise] um but this is quite a restrain that parents you'd say a second language which will have many dozens her many many dozens of these things i notice also that she has a whole hassan name and man michael partly um like naming uh but i have her like gee workout apparently called like way name people has you have like four different names and one is uh that involve like please and they and a religious thing as well as a given day [noise] so i would guess that the <unk> well organized impossibly hierarchy goals society possible [noise] 'cause otherwise some of those names don't make much sense huh [laughter] um let's see here the verbal inflection <unk> interesting puzzling to me [noise] [noise] in the summer suffix on some or prefix fine but i wasn't able to determine if there's a pattern or if it's just something that you remember on [noise] huh [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] <unk> you know contact shut they change and when you're trying to find [noise] no no no they don't change one for getting out of it oh okay but i don't know if that <unk> there's some semantic future um or if it's simply verb class you just have to memorize <unk> speak has to happen prefix and each which means walk <unk> oh yeah i see what you mean there there are there's a class of our picks up [laughter] [noise] <unk> ah <unk> latin <unk> man [noise] [noise] yeah but but i guess she hasn't made it exactly hear what weather let's see oh burt herb has <unk> <unk> <unk> well i don't know right it seems like it <unk> it's not exactly <unk> when when a verb is sucking it when it's pretty quick thing [laughter] so i know which like language like <unk> these represent um kind of transit anything like you got something vaguely you're going to like and then you know something state of [noise] um for example it as a possibility <unk> and there doesn't seem to any of the <unk> i <unk> i didn't notice any tech so i i guess we'd have to assume it's just lexical <unk> does your does it this way and different pursuit otherwise [noise] [noise] yeah yeah <unk> yeah which is fine yeah it's a different arbitrariness thinking that that happens all the time but uh it would be nice to have that <unk> now where i just think uh maybe would be good i don't maybe she's not quite done with the language and that's why she just did it on the block but it would be good for her to <unk> put it in one block you might see somebody could actually look at the language all the <unk> <unk> <unk> and her cat and i mean okay at least get credit <unk> right [laughter] [laughter] and he makes fang <unk> over the counter strike change [noise] she got tired of language <unk> [noise] i don't know um she mentioned um apparently it mentioned a family that looks middle name or orange gene that ah that south reasons 'cause like hang out so if she <unk> um yeah she <unk> language or [noise] [noise] yeah that's yeah rhoda huh <unk> wrong about everything [laughter] [noise] well um that's not all that i can really say about this like word [noise] and if you think though it's [noise] yeah it's it's work walking or walk and you know taking a look at some of the [noise] she has and bringing it a little bit closer we have <unk> i i i know but uh [noise] william probably read read more <unk> yeah but two weeks ago now almost [noise] [laughter] so it's like oh we'll do this and i think oh wait younger crossing the ocean okay well wait a week or a recording it's like oh wait [noise] yeah yeah the one that breakers winery and shit like they like mom i'm just like oh actually do thing again [laughter] thing today [laughter] yeah um what are we gonna do when we take a longer break uh anyway well um i think [noise] why don't we uh run along <unk> back and i'll have linked to the <unk> stuff in my in the show but uh i want to talk about we got one really good email from james <unk> uh uh uh i keep meaning just dialect topic of discussion or discussion we english speakers tend not to realize the scrutiny pervert founded dialect my exposure nor reason dialects over last decade or so and greek last month [noise] <unk> <unk> dialect has demonstrated to me a little non <unk> grammar and some unusual her uh it doesn't strike me that not just a case of a little non starter grammar and some unusual her fish and farming equipment has one might think the situation in england needs day uh i i'm getting a uh parents <unk> um looking at a norwegian dialect you will be hurting our differences well but there's some stark differences in england yeah [noise] yeah what gets me differences are now um dish demonstrate and basically he says basically different norwegians have norwegian dialect <unk> pronouns the dagger uh norwegian had yeah get make uh i mean a northerner rigid that's why i <unk> i probably <unk> oh yes i <unk> i didn't get any and now i'm angry <unk> oh yeah well maybe i'll get better on um [noise] <unk> yeah well yeah well i work for her i yeah but um [noise] he also talks about ah you had <unk> near austin adults who speak <unk> well i'm not sure you mentioned differences between standard dutch and and the that amish dialect and you know her her example uh standard dutch doesn't distinguish nominate have been accused of you but usually uh but the dialect has either and ah you know so um but i think in short really i don't i think that we should probably do dialect um very interesting thing and there are actually a few calm i heard that you go through all the work it does actually create dialects and i'm like [noise] that's tough if you are not already one of the historical people but if you're not normally in the process of creating a proper language and the driving your language and that dialects can be a little trickier [noise] sometimes i mean you can you sort of start making stuff up but it helps when we can talk about the <unk> second quickly get out of control and look nonsensical yeah we need to maybe we should talk about <unk> and and historical linguistics yeah there are a little yeah i think that makes sense [noise] um we got also got a comment on our block but i deleted three times before i decided it was not spam uh this guy named greek place uh mood as people [noise] [noise] so what do you guys thinking mood as people <unk> you didn't tell us what you mean [laughter] i have no idea what you're talking about dude [laughter] believe it should have one <unk> pet back [noise] like what that is going to get credit [laughter] i mean i think they should not hi pocket ranked merit conjugate it [noise] <unk> <unk> correct that does it make any <unk> [laughter] yeah i don't i don't i don't know if he really knows what he's trying to [noise] [noise] yeah it's a little it's a little <unk> [laughter] maybe i [noise] oh okay i'm going to i'm going to make a uh uh uh <unk> hey but on something that might actually make a little uh using <unk> mood [noise] her different when you're talking to different people so like uh uh politeness thing especially with uh command you might you <unk> you might want to do different moods on her different levels circle status maybe he's talking about that [noise] that makes sense yeah he will or will you went out i'm not i'm not going to get the person you to tell us what they mean [laughter] okay okay did uh email me or leave a comment on this uh uh telling me telling us what exactly you're pregnant because we <unk> now where you're talking about yeah yeah [laughter] [laughter] <unk> yeah <unk> i might mean <unk> <unk> right yeah my knee man i was like i don't get it [laughter] [noise] yeah [noise] well anyway and i actually ah anybody have any partying word or wisdom bianca hi <unk> [noise] you need to start thinking about it or <unk> [laughter] uh i don't know like whatever what is it <unk> do you have no <unk> my rent [noise] around [laughter] okay well i have my wisdom teeth and so i had [noise] okay well i'm happy i'm ryan thank you for listening to con library you can find all our episodes and show notes as well as subscribed to r. i. too or are assess speeds through <unk> dot <unk> dot org you can also like our face book page or follow at con library on put her if you would like to contact us with corrections comets questions or suggestions or even suggest your own caught lying is a feature please a 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