Conlangery #23: Alien Languages

Conlangery #23: Alien Languages

Published: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 17:00:19 +0000 \

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utterance-id1 <unk> so i <unk> i see would you saw on men who could solve it [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] too much else about structured languages of the people will be prepared bible chore correlate with me is beautiful cohost in england bianca by the by and never will <unk> will your pets okay alright [laughter] hey what is that oh god no which scott dialect english i'm exaggerating but some things from german or something yeah german has a lot of influence on look ugly yes like around these parts when you're someone's house you say bye bye bob straight out of the <unk> oh that's interesting [noise] lots of interesting things about wisconsin i guess [laughter] [noise] what are you man this is [laughter] sorry that was the weirdest thing to say uh <unk> okay oh you don't have you guys hear about this this crazy analysis but supposedly says the first language was s._o._b. yeah i've not had a chance to look at it i'm not sure i buy it like i can't access the original paper but people who are trust to analyze stuff [noise] find it to be pretty much b._s. and i very much when i'm annoyed by every single headline big first language may have been like yo does speak [laughter] which yoga speeches not s._o._b. [laughter] it's something much <unk> yeah [laughter] uh but anyway i think we could say that would lead us in fact er directly into our main topic today which is alien languages [noise] so a lot of <unk> might want to sort of go a little bit of a sigh fire out with their con lying and construct language that's for sure crush true [noise] and really weren't let's not talk just about <unk> crush grills but short of quote unquote alien beings you know weird spiritual entity use or whatever something that's not humid [laughter] so i don't know [noise] [laughter] yeah that's like [laughter] like you take a <unk> a good example so let's talk about what <unk> had a good example [laughter] let's let's let's think about what's going on does for a second so there's different ways that people handle this sort of thing so playing on sort of uh in one part of us spectrum sort of at one and you actually have not be which is basically a human language that's happened to be spoken by loose skin aliens they have exactly the same at least language production psychology exactly the same air way and all that stuff all the same organs on the other end of the scale you have things that are completely weird language is that are based on um <unk> language is that are based on alien psychology that humans could not possibly learn things like that playing on is somewhere in that little area because it's probably more towards the human side because all the features it has or human teachers but they're but they're either very rare or they wouldn't hurt together [noise] so that's kind of adds up into something sort of odd yeah so [noise] <unk> the big question for me about alien languages why would you make alien language in the first place [noise] sort of a thought experiment you imagine if you see that i don't know [noise] squid was extra testicle and they have some sort of nine arms sign language from school creatures on some foreign planet okay that might be interesting and then the other thing is has to do as you say <unk> and fantasy writing [noise] so for me no one cares about those languages except the people listening to the pot cats [noise] [laughter] [noise] so i sometimes think people get a little goofy about those must you just don't care and you know if you're if you're trying to write a story or novel about language that's gonna be a really hard so if you <unk> you can get away with that must be okay [noise] and for me personally i get cranky about that because as far as i'm concerned you know ninety nine times out of a hundred an alien whether that is an l. or i'm sorry it's a stand in for a particular conception of humanity it's a foil for humanities <unk> [laughter] [noise] the author is playing with something that [noise] people [noise] so uh truly <unk> alien languages i have no interest [laughter] uh well sometimes though the sort of <unk> sure within fiction no one cares [laughter] ah i don't know sometimes you get the [noise] [noise] i'm think here <unk> kind of under selling because there are there's got to be a segment of the population that y [noise] too small to tell [noise] [noise] [noise] well is the only reason for uh writing a book to sell to millions of people here at least someone yeah the only <unk> well i don't know i see [noise] i mean you can't do right if there are people who wants to invent languages to put them in books that's great obviously and and we've been taught this by recent movies and books you can't do <unk> anymore you can't not if you're clicking on not after the lord of the rings films not after appetizer you have to do better [noise] right so that's we get like those rocky hi and and then you gotta have a very small number of people who might go on with that but it's like my friend who's obsessed with you know the details of film production people who care about sorts [noise] for an artistic production a language is just sat dressing they may be very skill set dressing [noise] um and it may interest people outside of that but i i i sometimes think some people become so obsessed with treating alien languages worrying about three languages [noise] that it's out of proportion to the needs of the book or books or stories or movies or whatever it is they're doing okay well um okay then i'm gonna get hate mail for this probably but that that's how i feel about it i haven't gotten married <unk> okay i don't necessarily disagree with you it's like i don't want to go discourage people if people if they want to [noise] hello yeah hi uh language and let him get alaska oh okay okay all righty yeah yeah well you can make the language <unk> maybe i only wanna marry and people like oh well sure i hop on the language well i don't know see my languages i intend to include in a book and books and actually um i mean i have one novel i wanna write that i want to create several different languages for which is fine <unk> her mouth however if she i mean [noise] the cave [noise] having a hurricane around rich all stuffy [noise] or run on [noise] right i mean this is part of the whole world building profit that people go in for for certain kinds of fantasy <unk> may involve a certain amount of background work but i don't know that some of the work that goes into <unk> imagining what judy alien language would be like is is is linguistically interesting you might be mostly human like you'd have a few interesting switches to to bring some point to that story and that i can understand and see [noise] but i have to confess i've never i've never been very patient with the sort of [noise] sitting around and and and naval gives the about what a truly alien language would be like 'cause we used to have an appointed comparison [noise] and a book about and and a novel or fiction about things that are <unk> have no interest do human being [noise] well one that um my <unk> example that i can think of of [noise] an alien language in a book that is [noise] hey um [noise] but is sort of just a thought experiment that might be interesting to people is [noise] um and i haven't actually read this book it's in my candle which uh i need to get replaced because i stepped on it [laughter] but um i i've heard some good stuff about this but um in china <unk> um embassy town [noise] <unk> yeah there is uh [noise] and he didn't actually can truck the language for this right on typically what happens is you know we have plenty of hi fi authors who are very language focused [noise] but then you start to go digging in your <unk> not typically constructed entire language yeah so china <unk> said really bizarre things about language and one of his novels or not read the most recent one so i i can't speak to that [noise] certainly some of our our grand old dude i'm sorry hi or grand old women in some cases um uh frank herbert completely language obsessed but <unk> never gives you an example of the language or almost never does [noise] um what's his name around hubbard unfortunately inherited some weird ideas about language [noise] um yeah but el ron hubbard [noise] i i've read battlefield <unk> okay [noise] um [noise] highland frank herbert [noise] um i mean something like er strange strange land highland he says all sorts of things about the martial language we never treated it you just use it as as a starting point for discussion but in the book [noise] um frank herbert learn about general semantics at an impressionable age and he says all sorts of things about like rich upset with language you never know the language [noise] um c._j. cherry does a really good job i feel um you can see being uh alien languages and mentality and how those things relate and she even managed to get away with an entire series <unk> about a linguist feeling <unk> alien [noise] um [noise] i think i have that chain [noise] you had the dream that you're with ah now like <unk> <unk> [noise] [laughter] [noise] [noise] yeah um [noise] what was the last one i was thinking of <unk> sometimes obsessed about language and i'm currently i guess your tank chevy generate more fish [laughter] yeah well [noise] yeah <unk> <unk> has a little bit of uh of language obsession sometimes [noise] um so it's <unk> you we can't no obviously what an alien being a non human being would talk like what their language instincts would be ah what what kind of universities there would have so basically if you actually want to do an alien man mentality [noise] it might be a good <unk> just a good idea to experiment with these sorts of things like um the example i was about to give was in this book embassy town i haven't yes again i haven't read it but everything i read about it was saying that in the these creatures have know division between uh the symbol and the concept so they're words are the same as tall [noise] and there's a whole bunch of stuff that goes with that that they cannot lie and stuff [noise] obviously a human being could not learn a language like [noise] yeah [noise] that makes you see this this is my point the idea that simple and signify to identical it's idiotic you can't have a language like that because we don't have infinite brains no alien creatures could mhm well about anything that does not exactly that not actually exist in front of you [noise] that still isn't enormous range of things at this idea of aliens who can't lives very very popular idea hi fi mhm [noise] well i mean [laughter] my [noise] [noise] i have to actually read it because that's all right to be about people a bunch of people have said that he handled it well so i have i have to read it <unk> well she's usually a good bit greedy anyway but mhm [noise] but yeah it is and uh i've heard him in interviews and he said that that that kind of thing but um yes this kind of language is basically impossible on the face of it [noise] but it's sort of it's a thought experiment [noise] the same way in which like <unk> is <unk> uh what if you had aliens but that had a language in state that contract good something similar to a computer language with stack based syntax and all this <unk> uh in in one of those d._j. cherry novels um in the <unk> or a book she has a race of creatures to produce uh uh matrix oh work matrix um which no one can understand so it has to be filtered by computer and you get this you know ten by ten matrix the concepts organized and someone you're supposed to somehow interpret what that means [laughter] interact with that but i mean that seems unlikely evolution to me but it's an interesting idea and again and that's all she doesn't she doesn't go into that she's not bother to invent syntax or anything like that you just let you be confused um which honestly i think sometimes when do you think would alien alien languages that's a better way to go one thing that you actually know did you near notes william was that a specific group that people invoke in here was uh invoke that you think is just ridiculous is [noise] oh <unk> right language [noise] [laughter] we can expect that of aliens produced language that it's going to involve some production mechanism humans will not be able to reproduce so that's already artificial the idea of human speaking it's like [noise] sound airs gee mechanisms all sorts of things that that are not possible for humans but it still might be south so sound seems an obvious and convenient place to stick your language [noise] gesture insight obviously even humans can manage that sign language works really well and there's some people have speculated that human language may have started that way [noise] first sign and then [noise] sort of sounds came along with [noise] um maybe something like squid creatures which have very sophisticated um crumble horrors on the surface of their bodies could produce language that way with <unk> in you know what starts out as camouflage or or a mood could be focused in something linguistic [noise] um [noise] they wouldn't be a great idea [noise] um and then <unk> <unk> the thing that drives me bonkers this this idea that critters might communicate i smell yeah because it it's just idiotic at my at new ones but to have a means of communication which will only work if you're down with someone in uh in the appropriate breeze makes no sense second how'd you of all calico phony [noise] [noise] right you're she quit it's already screwed up because you have to rely on wind or whatever you have to have a <unk> a great deal of control in order to develop any kind of linear <unk> mental system would near my our son [noise] right <unk> <unk> oh [noise] i don't know like <unk> like offshore dry <unk> shall i <unk> i [noise] yeah um [noise] the problem with but the problem with using smell [noise] okay is that smell just fuses into the air the surrounding area right and you would you just smell whatever smells happened to be in the air around you and it's going to hang in the air for a while so constructing any kind of <unk> building any kind of structured sentence is gonna be difficult because you can't have like uh time linear production [noise] right <unk> <unk> even if you decide that you don't need a time when you're a production you send out different opposite of chemicals to in in some discernible sense some discernible way although how you're right well just imagine that it's possible [noise] for that to work you <unk> enormous chemical arsenal that's true you need a huge <unk> you can eat a lot of different in front of our bones [laughter] you would need effectively you'd need organs to produce to store <unk> street <unk> entire range of chemicals yes not just one i mean with with arms you already got your arms are already there waiting to do you think you'd get away from our ups send messages [noise] we already make voices we can change that in in some possible ways to communicate a message i have a hard time seeing complex messages being even possible chemical you whether that that's or in either air or water [noise] so i just it just seems unlikely to me even if we're talking a very minimal phonology that's still going to be a lot of distinct [noise] chemical signatures and you're going to have to make yeah and and what what we need able screwed all up i'm gonna say see so so my earliest <unk> my my first call on laying in a couple of coddling sketches uh don were four aliens species but what i did mainly was what i can trust could were effectively human language is but i sort of did a little bit of thinking about physiology to to make small deviations mainly and phonology so like eh a creature that has um a very underdeveloped nasal cavities or a nasal cavities that's that that um is isolated i'm can't be used for language would have known angels uh creature that has <unk> has no <unk> no <unk> at all [noise] stuff like that and there's the <unk> a few additive things that i did too creature with a <unk> can easily produce two tones at once so they have a little weird double tone thing but sure that's about as far as i want otherwise i just kind of assumed that either they had the same production system as a human or was analogous enough that i could deal with it with just i <unk> yeah they're even small number of human language that don't have any like bill [noise] [noise] so that really obsessed with that [noise] the more interesting question is what they say what oh messages you know i'm along with basic iron [noise] [noise] right <unk> <unk> say that anything that look [noise] hi <unk> <unk> <unk> what what do you know care about that would always be marks rich that's more interesting question that's the interesting question that's the question that you wanna do deal with with about experiment type deals [noise] i don't think that if languages knocked the focus of your story i don't think people are going to really care about uh um i'm coming more over to your side on this now william [noise] that [laughter] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] a corner and that would be [noise] ouch numbers so you avoid certain ways ensure that you get even number yeah they're <unk> i read one of these books i i caught on that they had weird numerology by that didn't really catch that but [noise] i mean the whole <unk> like [noise] um [noise] you know that becomes mhm right yeah and um without treating [noise] and it's in the middle of also a whole bunch show or cultural things that they developed such what they're like they're herd mentality and all that her [noise] i don't really understand what what they're called her was based on no it's been a while since i read that [laughter] yeah cherry can top three g. g. [noise] and it can be challenging [noise] yeah [noise] um i think we've pretty much exhausted this topic to be honest [laughter] it is i'm going to say though um as as much as as william is hating on on things don't be discourage if you want to do this sort of <unk> it can be fun i mean i'm sure it's can be fun in its own right if you have right mine to deal with it but you know <unk> you can have a language for aliens you can have an alien language [laughter] what you choose to do it depends on what you actually want out of it so [noise] so why don't we move on to our featured on line today which is <unk> [noise] so um [noise] ever said in eh i'm <unk> [noise] see the name of the author on here yet and i got this right yeah yeah [noise] i don't know that [noise] mm [noise] but um but actually recently i think i <unk> i i'm the language but i don't i don't think i've seen it in the last few years mhm [noise] so [noise] so i don't know man or woman uh-huh so [noise] [noise] <unk> [noise] [noise] yeah [noise] plus the reference grammar is beautifully laid out it's kind of weird the language itself is very bizarre [laughter] and some of the things that um [noise] some of the ways like bianca was being how can you were complaining that they use a non standard way of presenting the vowels and confidence of the language [laughter] which you know that's a <unk> [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] yeah so just keep that in mind when you look at the grammar here [noise] um i'm i'm one who likes to look at whether the the more things [noise] look at the balance of the phonology and stuff and that kind of threw me off at first but um [noise] and <unk> is oh because there's like a few random greek letters thrown in there there's no greek [noise] well [noise] [noise] isn't that well in a lower case omega oh sure yeah yeah and then there's an <unk> [laughter] right well but i agree and uh backwards epsilon and it back that's why the choice [noise] i <unk> [noise] some other kind of [noise] [noise] i that's the only one [noise] except to accommodate [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] there's a lot of games [noise] yeah but it [laughter] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] there's a lot of uh things in this language that baffled me [laughter] like for example [noise] he uses a lot of very um non standard term terminology [noise] which makes me think that he's trying to write these this grammar from hey world internal perspective i'm thinking that this is like the traditional grammar [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] well this could be something and and there's some things that like his <unk> these cases i don't understand i've never seen before [noise] right [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] oh like uh or or whatever we might describe the um [noise] yeah <unk> there's like <unk> introductory <unk> [noise] we spent a lot of time talking about how unusual my english speaker [noise] but i don't <unk> i mean some of it [noise] weird but shoo anyone who's used to thinking about oh i'm in <unk> <unk> oh yeah i i was thinking that because [noise] like ah the root of his receptive case basically would my one almost one to one to uh who knows dated [noise] [noise] so [noise] yeah i'm not sure about the original <unk> <unk> though but it could be <unk> the something possibly [noise] i'm just thinking that the the [noise] there's a lot of there might be some unnecessary weirdness in here and one one very frustrating thing is that um there's no actual classes there's just examples with translations and sometimes you can get away with that once or twice but considered that this language has lots and lots of stemmed changes and different you know <unk> and stuff but make it very hard to a puzzle out which word is which yeah laid out there were nine years two planes on it a little bit better [noise] [noise] one thing that i [noise] that [noise] to be like this really [laughter] what is it said that [noise] oh oh like describe that [noise] [noise] and the chocolate in <unk> [noise] [noise] mhm i liked i liked it i gotta go alien let's do something like that in fact he even uh has a parallel number system that is in in in uh based three he has a a regular number system which i think is just based in march or something but he also has a parallel base three number system the crabs right [noise] and um he has a big huge section on questions which i like i like to see people play with different types of questions [noise] so i'm not quite sure where <unk> uh or yes no questions are in here um and he did some interesting things with mood [noise] with with <unk> <unk> <unk> actually has three different optimum after two <unk> and three different some junk to <unk> [noise] uh and [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] yeah [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] yeah at the scene i think he has neuter and he has a double yeah yeah he has a hermaphrodite one [noise] which [noise] [noise] [noise] yeah i had sort of a bad reaction to that i don't know if it's necessarily that bad but i have a bad reaction because i see so many um <unk> new <unk> on the boards put a <unk> or what but when they don't understand what trigger is but [noise] i don't know [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] he does mentioned that it's a very rare so it may just be something that [noise] like restricted very much and if you know maybe some some remnant of something else then it got very purpose <unk> [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] ah [laughter] and do that in spanish well [noise] [noise] [noise] [laughter] i think part of the problems were gender [noise] nothing to do with me [noise] [noise] yeah that happened [noise] [noise] [noise] yeah [noise] [noise] you're sounding like a file on right now [laughter] [noise] oh right [laughter] [laughter] you you sound like a robot <unk> [laughter] okay [noise] [noise] [noise] yeah i'm guess tennis say [noise] like there's something that they're really night long which can kind of um of course things which is really awesome [noise] thirty investor this language you know like [noise] awesome language fluently [noise] i don't know that like [noise] i don't know this person even joined a thing like that that that is a um [noise] usual observation when our how if there is [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] yeah [noise] i don't i totally don't understand what the the the the <unk> the supposed to be [noise] it's mostly anything that stadium is supposed to be ah <unk> done with it's uh <unk> yeah that was [noise] i'm not sure if if they have the right terminology they're [noise] however the beginning oh unique streets calling or looking at <unk> very quite [noise] 'cause it's a well that dictionary yes let's let's look at the dictionary for a sec yeah <unk> <unk> once you get now do you support or yeah yeah [noise] obviously this is missing these are good low tech arguments [noise] yeah [noise] [noise] yeah [noise] i saw the uh the electric hon and it was <unk> he calls it <unk> in case you are looking for a dictionary and can't find it [noise] because some some people wouldn't wouldn't i don't know that word but um yes it's a very well [noise] oh this is like better than mine [noise] definitely um [noise] but this might help you puzzle through some of the examples that are annoying like on <unk> because he has your regular forums in here he has um very good definitions [noise] which is one flight on but [noise] that the definition are detailed it up like you know all one word [noise] i wasn't working [noise] mhm [noise] and he has like he he says you know <unk> second <unk> neuter noun plural or is it in a regular know by the way no learn number [noise] what is up with no learn number [laughter] no he has no larger number [laughter] [noise] [noise] yes [noise] [laughter] [laughter] that's that's burning now [noise] [noise] oh i have not heard of that that existing [laughter] it may be something he made up so then i read it short <unk> which means chart [laughter] uh a natural englishman mhm [noise] [noise] so it has some good points and bad points in some weird porn [noise] but [noise] i think it's worth [noise] taking a glance at the the a dictionary how it is laid out at least and maybe trying to a puzzle through what he means by his different cases right someone [noise] grammar is that is that in in terms recognized [noise] [laughter] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] like she had other languages weird weird terminology <unk> i don't think it's just weird perhaps [noise] [laughter] yeah it could it could just be something similar to uh i'm gonna call it for now uh <unk> crazy case uh but um is just despise behind unfamiliar term [noise] but we'd have to really big down and analyze it before we could really tease that out so why don't we actually move on to feedback we've got a lot of feedback today um and first of all i'm gonna say i'm very glad because we have two five started reviews on i can so [laughter] so i'm just going to read these real quick because i like yes 'cause i want people to leave us five star [laughter] so <unk> well it helps it helps more people discovered the pot cats that's a good thing [laughter] i um so we have one from stinger burg says i'm fairly new at the con lying <unk> hobby so i don't know much about languages [noise] but that's part gas is really helped me they're discussions of different aspects of language has taught me more than i ever learned in my college linguistics class [noise] and they're evaluations of created languages helps me see those aspects but in relation to other aspects [noise] even if you don't con lying yourself the segments on the parts of language or informational enough to be quite enjoyable this is always one over the first part cats i listen to in a week and that's not just because they're good at regular eat uh updating on mondays [laughter] so yes this guy basically wrote an advertising pitch for us and who are sort of [noise] [laughter] and then uh we had our second one is from halo too so i'm into <unk> hanging out and i find those very enjoyable to listen to even when i'm not doing anything with <unk> some of the things set in each protest inspire me to um to my <unk> i love it at my leisure blur mhm doing things with their languages [noise] good idea i like that i uh i like when people send an email saying that we inspired them to revise something <unk> and that this is this is what i want to be doing [laughter] and finally we had a wheat from patrick ocala and his his handle is at amazon diaspora um he actually had a question you says have you ever guys ever experiment in mixing tech tense an aspect into one concept [noise] i did and it created a weird point of view <unk> meaning [noise] <unk> yeah [noise] [noise] [noise] the mark make [noise] talking about <unk> meaning [noise] yes well <unk> [noise] [noise] yeah yeah i'm not sure how you would do this [noise] maybe if maybe if you're <unk> active is also always passed or something like that the <unk> the question [noise] right i think that that aspect but they're <unk> yeah that way but they [noise] they might [noise] about [noise] what would happen not just marking [noise] thing [noise] mhm [noise] on you or me i have a hard time like what would your <unk> [noise] now [noise] and you're [noise] are mixed together on that i think i'm gonna suggest why don't you send us some information on your language especially the part where you have this this weird uh ten slash aspect thing so we can figure out what exactly happened [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] yeah [noise] me like all sorts of lexical well so yeah [noise] sure how that would work right now [noise] yeah yeah i would like to hear a little bit more about that a little bit more than you can tell me in a hundred and forty characters [noise] but but you can <unk> stuff uh at the con lying hurry so we do i do look at that [noise] even though i'm i think i am mentioning this quite a bit late [noise] um [noise] no it wasn't [noise] are you kidding me [laughter] [noise] [noise] [noise] you look up <unk> you have three <unk> cash that come up and it's it's somebody's specific <unk> test i think it's it's uh <unk> but it was about a specific online or in [noise] on line [noise] [laughter] but anyway i think that's about oh i think we can wrap this up so william any words the wisdom [laughter] [noise] no i i started collecting [noise] um in my own like [noise] okay <unk> [noise] [noise] [laughter] [noise] eventually you guys are going to get the [noise] yep [noise] [noise] oh i got one oh hi rich are dangerous yes that they are that is very wise [noise] and [noise] [noise] no [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] [laughter] and all our foreign listeners are going <unk> ask what what what do you mean by that [noise] [laughter] all right and i'm going to say happy <unk> thank you for listening to <unk> you can find all our episodes and show notes as well subscribe to r. i. too or are assess speeds through con larry dot <unk> dot org you can also like our face book paid or follow at con lying hurry on porter if you would like to contact us with corrections comets questions or suggestions or even suggest your own con lying is a feature please a male <unk> ah gee male dot com or call in to our new voicemail lard three zero four eight seven three six to eight one [noise] we also have a handy suggestions warm on our um our name was related by saying hey i'm [noise] mm [noise] mm [noise] mm [noise] mm [noise] mm mm

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