Conlangery #47: Practicum — Isolating and Analytic Languages

Conlangery #47: Practicum — Isolating and Analytic Languages

Published: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 04:00:20 +0000 \

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utterance-id1 <unk> <unk> it puts costs on who tried to <unk> you <unk> [noise] [noise] <unk> language is people who created them i'm george carlin [noise] with us in the great state of wisconsin is william s. and i'm in ah new jersey we have my one team well [noise] uh so um [noise] i i'm now i'm just a couple of pocket cash to go <unk> there was going to be a thing on c._n._n. i i actually watched it neither of you guys watch did you probably would have been slightly disappointed because it's focussed very heavily on those rocky but um <unk> the people on <unk> uh today including david were saying that uh they cut out a bunch of stuff that they said about <unk> completely cut out donkey hottest part mm so [noise] oh well yeah yeah [noise] but i wonder if the person thought that it was good because it was presenting <unk> something that just treat people that i <unk> it was very nice to the the <unk> i mean even though it didn't really mentioned any of the community by name [noise] it was very much a a very positive sort of half hour of television about online we'd gone for being laughing ducks newark so that [laughter] i don't know that there are lots of people doing this for t._v. shows but then but that's the people who got attention first place anyway so [noise] um [noise] so anyway that that happened and uh there there's a couple of blocks <unk> up on the next list uh site but um i'm hoping that they'll put some clips <unk> or some extended interviews [noise] now but i haven't seen that happen yet um [noise] anyway i will [noise] why don't we actually just plowed right into our topic because we have a gigantic topic today we are doing another practical him and this is going to be isolating analytical languages [noise] now um [noise] william there's a reason why we kinda changed the title of this at the last minute because uh sort of we were going to say isolating before but i don't let it gets kind of kind of dumped tails into it <unk> it really does [noise] so i wanted to go to bed you can call in getting rid of the future and i wanted to call it getting rid of more quality but i think that limited [noise] too much [noise] um and i was a bit sloppy in the trend old you know you sit isolating languages which to me in jeopardy is probably my and so the difference between the yeah an analytical language in one weird romantic relationships are they like we're we're [laughter] and um isolating language which has only sing yeah mhm relatively low low again dictate things corona spectrum [noise] [noise] um and and the reason they want to do [noise] 'cause i recently saw someone who's thing it might have been on some bowling or or another [noise] complaining about how like we just had a boy and i knew tremendous steak english maybe warranty all at once you're sitting [noise] but we did in the room and big languages isolating languages [noise] there's a great deal of tactic and richness in um in these [noise] so i thought it'd be fun to go over varies but [noise] yeah i make these languages more interesting for all of it <unk> gigantic <unk> [noise] yeah and i just just to say really quickly i've made no secret on the show i've said this before just because english does it doesn't mean it's bad or you should avoid it just you know there are interesting things in english even and of course you can do things with isolation and ah analytic languages that are very very different from english to so exactly it's it's it's not like oh english falls in this type logical category uh let's not do that if you did that you would never make an ass rio language that's kind of stupid to ah to cut that out of your um cut that out on a regular car yeah yeah yeah but anyway [noise] why don't we get actually into the meat of the discussion here so [noise] um [noise] what is the difference between isolating an analytical and of course they they overlap <unk> quite a bit but what is the difference i mean [noise] i mean i guess it sort of it or the beginning their analytic [noise] basically your word order determines the technical and isolating language <unk> weird how many more people are in your [noise] okay let me go ahead man overlap but not all that [noise] yeah i think there's an overlap between the languages so one of the [noise] example of an ice <unk> highly isolating analytic language something like beat me mhm [noise] or probably cantonese can mandarin let so because [noise] [noise] mhm yeah [noise] so we got english as a very it's a very analytical language [noise] but <unk> we have lots of multi more inward possible unlikely [noise] delicious [noise] uh-huh [noise] yeah we [noise] we have quite a bit of uh <unk> complex derivation [noise] don't promote like we don't have that much dramatic lives uh morphology though right exactly exactly [noise] in terms of being able to communicate certain kinds of things i think this is julie <unk> i think we're playing a little bit of a terminal logical trip i think that it would be very easy to create isolating completely analytic like [noise] that was submitted identical you know <unk> or a squeamish or you know natural language we talked about [noise] more than a month ago now you know market um but the more iffy uh-huh so for example burmese it listed isolating language but it <unk> working critical mhm <unk> yeah [noise] so it kind of linguistic eerie questions you know late night dorm room discussion what's the word <unk> where's the boundaries that uh i mean you can even hang out and analytical language that had known incorporation which is bulldog bite word or [noise] [noise] now the <unk> like i know um <unk> usually go on to all the word in like you were saying i like books and chicken both book in chicken would show that sucks over uh that were showing the issues of cakes but if it's a article <unk> they're article for each item series or to just go at the end of the phrase [noise] that could <unk> language yeah that could actually be a test on whether it's a particle if if you can make it apply to multiple things at once but then again if it if it [noise] one one of the issues that i have em em em when you're saying that you have a uh like uh a case post position or proposition or a case [noise] part a cool [noise] it seems that depends on the language how clear it is whether it is a part a cool or i i <unk> [noise] because um we were talking before the show about how japanese some people talk about the <unk> the the cases being more <unk> particles other people write them is if there are suffix was on the word but there's no way to test which one is true because the <unk> always comes at the end of a mountain phrase and the particle always follow them out there is nothing <unk> account can come between them so exactly how do you make it past right how'd i talked to was handled america's most like i don't think like if you like more like if you say i eat bread and <unk> <unk> how <unk> for each [noise] um some job that might be um i don't know 'cause i know russian you to <unk> to them i think you know but <unk> yeah i'm russian just has suffix was [noise] i don't know how japanese works with that so i i only have very very limited knowledge of japanese but if somebody could could uh tell us ah how that works in japanese that might [noise] should some light on the situation but again that's that's sort of series stop [noise] but i can't i think it's worse <unk> there's there's some cases where you have <unk> you can't even say whether it's an ethics or a particle [noise] luckily writer spectrum and might be like saying you know where to one caller and you know to get might just be very greens among there and you know not really concorde color thing uh-huh you know how <unk> what <unk> yeah [noise] right right and that's why i said earlier that i think the argument can be made that were playing that terminal logical trick in the name was <unk> like a german logical tricking probably are some theories of linguistics which which uh search strongly that exactly what's happening [noise] doing like uh accused of murder and the chocolate and accused of murder is accused of murder does not matter article [noise] um or is it <unk> you know conjugation [noise] <unk> yeah so you might want to go when isolating and reclaim ridge and still get all of the delicious marking that you love so much right mhm mhm it will happen in different ways and whether that article operate on race or individually <unk> up to you it's your <unk> [noise] which you know we we actually mentioned uh in a couple of episodes but you can have a political that affects phrases which [noise] that's a little bit more clearly being a particle or at least a clinic [noise] rather than being any kind of ethics and that can be one way where you can be a little bit analytic where you can have say you know john and <unk> how <unk> how <unk> um [noise] language and banana accused of i ate you know right [noise] yeah [noise] i saw the <unk> the <unk> once i would've known the japanese for that but i know [laughter] i think oh it's a accused of murder it is the drive down there yeah yeah <unk> but whether you need someone until [noise] my <unk> with only need one yet because i think those different articles uh junction i hope i'm not sure yeah that's why i'm not making a statement because yeah we don't we we don't want to uh <unk> program so little uh but somebody correct with some comments [noise] um so i was just thinking another language that had very strongly isolating syntax but very rich <unk> indonesian mhm <unk> which are basically uh donald each other [noise] um so if you're interested in that she might want to take a look at the grammer like just a good um a little bit closer is a language like mayor [noise] cambodia which again [noise] highly leading syntax but because i mean syllable structure and various other things it slightly bigger than muscle addict or <unk> highly ellen sorry hi elissa day i'm gonna continue these [noise] show an adult judge okay so let's just say yeah [laughter] do you have any examples or from these languages or [noise] sure and there's a positive <unk> uh-huh so basically you have your your normal outward order but then you've got and your bird and takers prefix which turns a whole bunch of things that you can't do trench uh-huh [noise] um i don't know indonesian <unk> <unk> <unk> <unk> and read it occasionally but i don't know how that i don't know that generational <unk> or um [noise] i know she's real world sometimes so i i'm not going to say anything besides him about it but yeah well [noise] okay [noise] so it's [noise] these are languages that are sort of i would psycho like <unk> and vietnamese being very strongly to one and uh the scale whereas these are maybe sort of near the same place english is maybe a little bit further along right <unk> it's very interesting because most lean muscle addict [noise] um [noise] there's this idea that several of the month or languages are <unk> eleven mhm so <unk> <unk> i mean the one and a half and the idea if you had your main syllable [noise] and then you have these um minors look at the restaurant which are highly trained in there she makes little uh-huh so basically <unk> <unk> what's your only two or three girls that are available there [noise] to <unk> cry when you're talking about sexual syllables <unk> they're just <unk> you know [noise] they're not really [noise] um let's see um so <unk> pretty short <unk> issue openly better [laughter] now it's worse saying that the reason we talk about this um <unk> [noise] sort of as you proceed toward the most ideal of ice living in analytical language is [noise] it seems i forget where i read this but i'll see if we can find it [noise] it seems like at the most ideal you end up with something that's <unk> [noise] and very often tonal right so <unk> <unk> <unk> <unk> <unk> <unk> <unk> it's a little complexity so i found one while doing research for the show <unk> all rage uh english <unk> which is awfully large which actually produce um and english syntax [noise] from cincinnati you basically <unk> and it is rising because [noise] <unk> [noise] yeah you wouldn't have hugely complicated suitable smell [noise] perhaps not as complicated as some languages but they're pretty <unk> pretty complex right not georgia [laughter] uh and according to the paper was reduced overtime on whatever pressure yeah isolating languages which makes this way [noise] in some sense that makes sense that we have element which together that you're going to get larger so <unk> yeah [noise] <unk> maybe i don't know it's easy to come up with just so stories like that but um yeah it's sort of [noise] even if things were simplified i think sort of the more ideal isolating languages definitely have some similar similar at least as far as i can tell because [noise] think about the most complex <unk> in english [noise] i think would be something like strengths [noise] which has what three caught smith [noise] ah <unk> possibly a diploma and then two confidence in the <unk> <unk> <unk> probably most of the chinese languages you can only have as much as [noise] c._b._c. um there are plenty actually nope yeah leading language <unk> right he said how complex onset okay [noise] now definitely does uh-huh i think maybe um is your language highly <unk> relatively low working toward ratio um having maybe not i'm not into i think your <unk> your soul to get more variety and or help there for a chinese you know you in english you have my m._a. chinese <unk> and then you also have [noise] you know <unk> well i think i think often the reason that some of these languages tend to develop tone [noise] is to actually compensate for simpler syllables [noise] but i like is that there's still a little bit because what we're talking about is what happened as you approach the ideal you don't have to go to the ideal isolating language eaten indonesian and by no means that idea that long multi sledding we're adults aren't well united <unk> [noise] well i'm sort of medical <unk> highly <unk> mostly monica right oh very isolating varian <unk> [noise] yeah which seems to be some sort of tendency but we're getting a little erratic yeah it's it's a little bit theoretical but the those traits seem to come together as you get more analytic as you get more ice wedding but it's mostly when you get into the the extremes of the languages that you end up with that sort of cluster of traits occurring the cluster of teachers are correct now [noise] so well i'm not a quick question not talking about getting closer to um you know iceland isolate mind would miss or analytical language um what are we getting away from the other end of the spectrum do we have the uh uh uh <unk> or do we have the products and do those i would have a distinct lower chance of the tunnel happening you know what i'm talking about yeah i don't think it made me you know i don't know <unk> nothing in languages <unk> ever a perfect [noise] sort of this will always happen if this happens like and it's like the less likely <unk> novel mhm <unk> mind boggling more logical uh-huh yeah i think i think you have to think of it more as it's more likely to develop tones of the develop more towns as you approach this ideal of isolating [noise] <unk> <unk> <unk> there is pressure truly in an isolating syntax no analytics [laughter] she used to fly your word shape uh-huh <unk> by the law lee <unk> yeah i think that's why i brought mandarin <unk> exactly [noise] i would i would hit knees which still has <unk> they couldn't [noise] [noise] <unk> [noise] i think probably the the the main thing you have to say not necessarily that um tone systems are more likely as you get further along here but the complex tones of soups like mandarin and cantonese where you have more than three towns basically [noise] are more likely to come as you get more isolated although turkey has um has a lot of towns and it's [noise] quite a bit more <unk> but i think most of the languages are have like four more times are probably toward the isolating at [noise] again this is a tendency this is not a rule english is stress accent but sort of partially going towards isolating yeah i'm i'm i'm [noise] i wish i could remember which one i know there are some highly tonal language is mexico to still have pretty rich more calls you so yeah <unk> these yeah these are all just tendencies we don't <unk> it's [noise] it's statistical tendencies mainly that we're talking about here which means that as a cold like are you are right and you have limited to use the detroit originally true it's absolutely true you can do whatever you want [noise] it's just you know these are the tendency [laughter] <unk> not like you <unk> if you want to hate chinese [laughter] [noise] you know you know what what you're getting into if you want to break all the rules you know what you're getting into that's all we're <unk> [laughter] so [noise] are we ready to move on yes yes we talked way too long [noise] shortages talk about some of the things you can you technically the english does not mhm um with even your <unk> [noise] [noise] [noise] example dirt chaining sometimes know syria herbs are extremely rich and powerful to see things like that mhm um certain kinds of edgar satellite and it can be used to shake lexical i <unk> so for example in a language like your boom or um [noise] [noise] [noise] the language in vietnam [noise] do you do now and say hi she'll rabbit for dinner you say something like <unk> <unk> money [noise] funny enough <unk> exact same thing happens in chinese <unk> well let's take chinese from over okay <unk> <unk> you know <unk> you might not need separate bring uh-huh say he <unk> he take <unk> that's true that's cool and write so spend some time looking at language like your marriage and you see all that interesting subtle mexico richest you can get which is not just producing an english dictionary that pretty soon afterwards that takes me much too much you can be happening [noise] so bouncing back you the chinese situation which only had cereal yeah it had these resulted structure so <unk> right right so my favorite examples from into reading class a phrase that you can you anywhere in china [noise] ah yeah i mean here not understand [laughter] yeah i [laughter] it it's it's actually that's literally howitt translate it means that you cannot you you are hearing somebody but you don't understand them [noise] right so <unk> in chinese instructional grammar is these are called <unk> <unk> <unk> do you do that language is really important to understand that not only am i have i said i i'm not understanding what you're saying but it has it very strong protected aspect overshadowed mhm [noise] uh and you can put other <unk> most mostly <unk> i see amount understand which <unk> which can also be <unk> i <unk> i can't i can't read it all sort of that [noise] um [noise] um and if you don't have marking you couldn't use different birds and change anything along like the standard and mandarin used to use the <unk> or to give it affected me data worker [noise] yes you you don't have an instrumental you say i use gun shoot [noise] money [laughter] i'm i'm harsh on rabbits have to get my garden having [noise] so we're or go ahead um [noise] where do you even have things like uh <unk> me i give a gift give you you sort of [noise] things that in translation seem redundant but it's interesting it allows you to develop all sorts of interesting subtlety yes it does seem to be that isolating languages and definitely isolating your i'm talking about <unk> analytic isolating languages have geology or burger king and they come up in languages like chinese low mayor but they're also very very common in parts of africa where another isolating and fought in west central africa with things like your book and all of the language is like [noise] [noise] <unk> um st technician like [laughter] crashed for the reason i i think that they're still out there to figure out what exactly they're doing uh-huh what it means that there's lots of free papers on the internet so if you want to grab idea it's easy for you to find material to look at it you an idea for range of possibilities which we don't have any time here [noise] but really a tremendous richness lexical subtle <unk> uh uh uh aspect tricks that you can do marking tricks you just buy chaney yeah so <unk> <unk> so we covered that topic you want to say anything else about verging cereal [noise] oh yeah [noise] i think we've covered it [noise] <unk> right if people want to learn more they can look it up right and we can avoid the rabbit or chinese [noise] yeah we we already went down the road whole chinese way but you may get more so [laughter] um another trick available in these languages <unk> yeah yeah right so last week when he decided on this topic <unk> did it very funny show it's you're kind of show [laughter] interested [laughter] right so you you have highly analytical language you might have resistant to much word or trickery mhm [noise] create topic or create focus or use attribute it instead of relatively close shake mhm [noise] <unk> <unk> part of the end of your son do things like moved in discourse strict [noise] short example <unk> <unk> <unk> er means or thai or i read too much about like like me because i'm working on a language <unk> but [noise] um which is another reason why this topic or something languages of south east asia where every single second type is going and win a certain kind of <unk> which includes the relationship will disappear and he's early huh interesting including simply making a statement might include that relationship and might uh <unk> the <unk> the speaker i know that hi has [noise] has different uh something final particles for male and female yeah so i taught i <unk> i <unk> i should say gender because one of my tie gray mars hasn't special sections explain transsexuals it [laughter] [noise] which is sometimes really [noise] i think <unk> what are you in em i've i've heard that there are or some uh interesting shows in thailand [laughter] yeah yeah you're married to accommodate the interesting so um you know we talked in the past about using if you've got ninety degree racial language is you can use word or do things like focus [noise] in these languages you can you can decide how things were as well mhm mhm [noise] now when you um you mentioned <unk> like um like surprise or which my my <unk> meant dramatically but i think like evidence reality in new york city in even sprite and all that sort of discourse don't be included that way as well yeah i'm not sure if it would be <unk> i don't like in chinese <unk> there's been [noise] or how like you know like <unk> okay oh great right that's what it said [noise] you know there's all sorts of different things that you can have just on random particles but of course i don't know i'm thinking you might want to avoid particle overload overload but then again it might be interesting if you end up with a situation where you could pile up four or five particles [noise] then you have a degree [laughter] [noise] [noise] [noise] [noise] oh yeah i think there's many interesting possibilities are combining most [noise] in discourse article [noise] um yeah really interesting subtle thinking <unk> they're non obvious thing so you can avoid the deadly dull perfect regularity um you know like we had with the language they none of us you know because we can do the <unk> oh that that yeah and i might round where right where he had different con mood marking combining to do things like oh suddenly just meeting the right things like this become <unk> mm yeah um articles cause i think also people might want to refer back to our um discourse articles [noise] <unk> because i think do more analytical languages time to have more discourse particles war is is that a time see that exists in any case i think that's true i just think english i think oh languages how these but they tend to look like other parts of speech that's true and then in in a more analytical language it might end up looking more distinct [noise] yeah but and another thing is when you're doing discourse particles we mentioned that show a discourse particle could be very fuzzy and what it does it can do it might have four or five different usage it's right some some of which may have nothing to do it's true i mean they might be playing oregon junction sub situation mhm arabs or whatever <unk> really [noise] so the next year you can play in a highly isolating language is with all your words are one or mostly older words are <unk> you just really easy for now <unk> programs to merge <unk> uh-huh so or <unk> tai <unk> doesn't mean literally doesn't [noise] mhm [noise] which you pick and choose depending on the appropriate social contact [noise] right there are multiple weight use the <unk> <unk> <unk> and it will depend on who you're hanging out with a new you're talking to you mhm [noise] so really interesting stuff can be done there i think [noise] isolating language you don't have to take this role or don't have to expand that we like you're a book is another mostly analytic isolating isolating it's more analytical and somewhat isolating it has its own rather synthetic mhm <unk> more complex <unk> to a lot of language frankly [noise] so basically you're saying [noise] it doesn't have to be this way but more analytic him more uh more isolating languages are more likely to form these open class pronouns that sort of <unk> now and it was tough [noise] if you want to do it if you want so for example in especially more newbie on later [noise] become contribute [noise] by the grammatical shirt gender and these social constructive gender [noise] and so they do they want to experiment with the idea that gender identity any <unk> in the language and teach you don't use radical gender to do that <unk> there's so much easier which approached issue that's certainly that's certainly the preferred way to do that because [noise] um [noise] the pronouns are much more likely to actually have something to do with social gender or actual um or actual biological sex them what the grammatical gender which is mostly kind of arbitrary it very arbitrary so like i said my hi grammar explains how there's [noise] most pronouns in tires are coated for <unk> male or female <unk> there are some that are seen that can be used by er in one of those but see pronouns it was more common in old fashioned chai <unk> no use again bars me by trying to distract contractual interesting <unk> here's a natural natural language you exactly what you want to do a little gender neutral grown up you're talking about yeah and i <unk> i mean they could use for either male or female yes [noise] um like singular say actually getting today it's ah there's more complicated things going on with that but anyway [laughter] topic for another show [laughter] [noise] anything else you wanted to talk about um [noise] <unk> not really i think yeah i think that kind of a sudden it it's an interesting way for you to to play the lakers [noise] one thing i notice yeah go ahead i'm sorry i was just gonna say one thing about i was working out doing what the chinese measure word the language and i'll do them at dinner pronoun when you get <unk> that's another thing you can you <unk> if you want the charm double up on something they already have i'll using if it was like you know five well you could say you know i [noise] five measured book ninety per se <unk> you know measure word are interesting [laughter] everybody rick cause chinese [laughter] [noise] so yeah so [laughter] say that you know might than using the term measure were which is the standard we're we all learn you take mandarin classes yeah we talked about that before as um class the fires mhm mm yeah it's really interesting the different kinds of ways those years in the languages in south east asia <unk> times with ouch demonstrative or number they affected me act like definite article score indefinite some pot or is it there are things you can do with this pattern if you know about it [noise] wanna play with it i mean i'm not researched it here so i don't know if we can say much more but people want to research it so much interesting stuff well and that those tales into uh what you say about ambiguity [noise] i think because i mean it depends on i think you might might be thinking more of a <unk> but [noise] some of these languages that we're talking about end up with a lot of <unk> and uh the new real costs higher we're want our one way of um companies saying yeah right the others is rapid compounding but right now so it's important to say that even though we're calling them measure words and numerals classified as their alter usually demonstrative yeah [noise] um and they might be you know there are certain things and different languages so don't just get um the idea that they're number marking models yeah if you want to use them research how they're used in certain in different languages because it depends on the language what they'll be used as well mhm and they're stronger aerial teacher of south east asian which interesting <unk> <unk> <unk> they're available but optional oh that's interesting yeah yeah you don't run out of that uh oh is that not like an english like it's either you know oh i guess 'cause a lot of those where they just don't use like a murder crows or [noise] while we we have uh where they are often mess or in english for collective mountains but like specifically we talked about on that particular episode are numerous request fires we uh we talked about uh head of cattle catalyst collective you can't talk about <unk> about one head of cattle [noise] but that's that's <unk> <unk> way down that robert hall i think [laughter] can actually go to the absolute did we talk about is it specifically middle class fires or is it under the numerals <unk> or something it was not to be <unk> it was the first one the first one you didn't <unk> that episode the very first one yeah i i called the measure worse than i did it but it was mostly about chinese but i think we've talked about it and other opposite uh yeah i mean it comes up in israel anyway [noise] [noise] [noise] um anyway so popping back um while looking at stuff for the show i didn't notice one or two papers reference in languages <unk> no <unk> marketing role marking particle uh-huh there is a very strong statistical tendency for that language to be asked me oh oh okay it makes a whole lot of <unk> [noise] not required but very very call it not make a whole lot of sense to me because it's makes it much easier to tell which word is what [noise] [noise] well now i oh i'm sorry where you are [noise] george y y you as opposed to any other random order [noise] well because he put over in the middle i guess uh v._s. could serve the same purpose but <unk> subject before object is much more common sure um the <unk> why would i would why would why would that be the worst [noise] because [noise] [noise] right 'cause me i can't come up with the situation why this pressure would seem to be but <unk> i don't know if you say if you had you can have a <unk> [noise] we use the <unk> <unk> that could make the uh s._o._b. too ambiguous okay okay [noise] so that into the next topic which i'm saying you're the ambiguity when you have dropped a lot of your over role marking apology are real but none [laughter] uh-huh and plenty of languages [noise] deal with these all the time so uh one language is called <unk> which i keep mentioning because there's a free grammar available online [noise] <unk> ah strongly initial lakewood [noise] mhm [noise] so demonstrative pronouns oh we'd come in and they do it mhm [noise] this dog the dog to the point is that means that relative closet solo uh-huh so <unk> i saw yesterday with barking um no that's not a good example this dog the man's saw yesterday was barking <unk> mhm [noise] but but then it becomes you about binding mhm binding shoo uh non within a relative or biting sudafed relative <unk> <unk> yeah right so that's a real <unk> and yet somehow didn't manage it extremely lucy goosey about perjury unity ended program [laughter] <unk> oh they managed effected me every day so [noise] you're not become upset and the judy you can't show would happen in normal natural conversation mhm mhm an isolated that you can always be shown to be like you know about [noise] yeah [noise] there's a yeah ambiguity [noise] ambiguity is not as big as we've actually been thinking about doing a whole episode talking about ambiguity because the thing is all languages have ambiguity somewhere and it doesn't harm communication that much right so it'd be <unk> [laughter] [noise] right but so much comes to context and et cetera so right yeah i <unk> [noise] mhm um and i guess the last thing i just wanted should mention when there are a few <unk> well on the planet or analytic [noise] um and isolating languages and those are in south east asia and west central africa <unk> and the <unk> g. p. e. family languages [noise] um [noise] and and plenty of either <unk> reasonably well documented up like [noise] you know do some research and get some good information <unk> constantly and i think of like um a lot of language number and now they're <unk> like um language that they incorporate like uh the subject and the object perverted i <unk> all right uh highly <unk> well as we're talking about different language i think of i think of that in africa too i think um [noise] uh polly census in africa [noise] but maybe that's just my buying a sort of assuming that there is [noise] but i knew that there were some almost close to the ideal of ah high sledding languages in africa as well like america is a <unk> many many many different kind of like you know that's a huge it's a huge there are some obviously there's some <unk> and the bachelor languages spoken radically everywhere but yeah are you can even one or two bedroom i used to have been so worn down my time but that nearly analytic they're not quite there but they're seen it up yeah huh <unk> um [noise] my you had a couple of things that you wanted to talk about specifically yeah well um i'm actually i tried to make these little uh less worthy on <unk> yeah um [noise] <unk> <unk> you're you're a little bit but um originally i couldn't hear the question of our <unk> our languages are more likely to heart and see to austin worker stay where they where they are without <unk> or are they um you know <unk> like with a male language much you know if you look hard enough i'm sure you'll find some uh but with <unk> i would think if your if your words are it's some i know in analytical language that i would assume <unk> could garbled what role they were what role that were showing where they weren't in the <unk> [noise] i think we've said on the questions <unk> w. h. movement [noise] it doesn't really necessarily go with anything else to sort of <unk> some language is doing some mine was just about yeah i mean i was thinking like um yeah i would think more about moving around <unk> and uh again i would bring up chinese chinese has fairly strict court order but it does have lots of <unk> [noise] yeah well that's why i said we're we're not because it goes with word processing or w. h. movement or worked renting or even roller clock i don't know william do you have any thoughts on this [noise] yeah i'm trying to remember we're talking about issue my impression is that you do you have <unk> yeah or or <unk> or your vocal structure become awake so for example if you have focussed brooklyn is you're collecting for focus [noise] mhm [noise] once you've done that than it is heightened likely that your question words be grab and use for that now i <unk> you mean moving around <unk> people you know what i mean like you know it i thought yeah it's it's more than just moving around but it was like a specific structure when you are moving topic or focus around [noise] whereas maybe if you use topic and focus particles you're more likely to have in <unk> right right right [noise] um but you can mix them much if you want you know <unk> um hold on a <unk> <unk> <unk> <unk> there's just statistical tendencies and you know if there's one or two <unk> <unk> [noise] one or two statistical tendencies uh-huh you want to break then go ahead and write some <unk> your <unk> your <unk> your baby it's your creation yeah well i mean [noise] third probably a language that does ah because anytime you have one of these tendencies [noise] there are a few things that language that are that seemed to be absolutely universal at least nobody has found a counter except for those are very that's a very small side of the things [noise] most of these things were talking about our statistical uh tendencies that fish plenty of languages but don't follow those it's just you know generally so you're making one language most of the time here we make more language the time so if there's one that you want to go against the grain don't just go ahead [noise] [noise] um you know that's all we're movement um oh come on you know brings back or <unk> are there um maybe if you have more isolating analytical language um it may or may not you may or may not want to think about <unk> [noise] or put in place or um or just go with whatever field right you know i just wanted to comment on that i'd say you probably will have stricter word order but you still might have some <unk> [noise] yeah yeah um i am with the ambiguity i wouldn't worry about not being used them part because it's a <unk> it's a normal thing on top of it some time don't be afraid and you can talk to about it uh [noise] one thing i would like mentioned is already mentioned a language like kamir which has you know <unk> uh logo more pro draw and uses common structured or [noise] none of which is march overtly so <unk> so you would get it ended up not <unk> each state yeah yeah [noise] it's just i'd say you can end up with a little bit of word movement some some <unk> you're probably not going to be radically mountain figure racial em [noise] see episode eleven too for the different [noise] but uh you know you're not going to have the the the uh word orders jenna generally showed the years [noise] ah some ethical but yeah you can still have <unk> [laughter] you know or focus movement or w. h. movement it's not like one of those things is going to break your language yeah um and i found this interesting that you brought this up in a thing about isolating language is because i thought that this is kind of sort of the opposite because uh mike you put in your notes on little thing about <unk> roots yeah i was um well when i was i was working on and uh and i play drums i want to be kind of like tiny tiny tiny [noise] um but i <unk> i was thinking about um i wait to build your comedy which isolating there's only a certain amount of um civil that you have and they start looks similar after a while so um what's you know how that anyway so i thought about like would you like to make languages where they have <unk> and i don't know any so i'm not knowledgeable and very very limited but basically i think that there are [noise] ah <unk> the continent and bite into changing the vowels that are you <unk> you can get different um <unk> <unk> different meanings er [noise] yeah yeah i think you have the base of it i think there's half weeks isn't stuff with it well you know a little bit more about this [noise] can you have maybe a little bit um analytic language but still has <unk> roots [noise] the thing is i think of tripod smell roots by themselves making something classified as usual [noise] right so the theory people talk about non <unk> morphology so i definitely think root system and typically you bake languages definitely [noise] um but there's no reason for you not to use the system like that to generate vocabulary and <unk> and <unk> yeah [noise] okay so so could you say instead of instead of going all out the way that the uh i think those languages how often have sort of uh some grammatical one coding in ah <unk> yeah <unk> pretty quiet if you just had a pattern for now and a pattern for active by a pattern for a verb or whatever more classes you have [noise] could you do it that way maybe sure yeah now um one thing that we were mentioning about that when we were talking about the gene analytic and iceland in um uh <unk> in there about um <unk> how <unk> the the racial marketing um the analytical language which he said that i remember when he was an only have two <unk> [noise] what about twenty five <unk> [noise] so that's one example where you can definitely have a very rich starvation <unk> <unk> <unk> <unk> be a little more intellect by the way we should mention this because this is important to this topic so derivation all basically makes on new <unk> new word where as an inflection on morphine mark some grammatical property uh like you know it might be a plural markers or it might be a case marker might be something else [noise] um but it doesn't it doesn't change the core meaning of the word whereas it important to say that the instructional things don't ever occur by themselves mhm mhm yes so [noise] so one thing i want to mention about word building didn't in languages are considered highly isolating cheat [noise] <unk> me it has a number of compound the elements which and not ever being used by themselves uh-huh and yeah very productive producing multi bird lexical i yeah [noise] so you know you can still have derivation morphology language that cult isolating you just won't be using that as anything else like much but it will be usable she produce new kinds of work which is also some of those um i think <unk> [noise] <unk> yeah um yeah that's all i really have done that we did touch on <unk> [noise] <unk> [noise] i really love the vietnamese <unk> system because it has to competing thing going on mhm first of all we had beaten means [noise] which is a <unk> a addict language in it and <unk> and it it's [noise] strong lee <unk> initial but it it's been under the influence of chinese for so long but it has a tremendous number of title compounds in addition to the natives additional <unk> [noise] um she has a very confusing situation psychologically where you have <unk> that can be there and fight or initial wow i just like the the whole mass [noise] that yeah i'm looking at the vietnamese uh we get what will be a new language like you run out of [noise] [noise] yeah <unk> yeah there's there's there's a need you need more <unk> we'd be which had a whole bunch of stuff for the the <unk> [noise] um yeah we're we're playing a terminal logical trip [noise] you know they <unk> they're written a separate words they might count as separate word insurance comedy but you can't be but some i mean some of them can be used by themselves or others so there's there's all sorts of again like we said there's you <unk> you can have all sorts of deep philosophical discussion on [noise] what is a word [noise] <unk> what what constitutes a bound morphine more afraid of morphine there's all sorts of stuff going on here [noise] and my <unk> or <unk> or having this is you can have <unk> much mind boggling [noise] seattle [noise] <unk> and changing in isolating analytical engine as u. n. n. f. lee all these [noise] you know the whole word languages [noise] in fact i think probably the most interesting thing about isolating <unk> languages here with an isolated language generally you don't really know where the word boundaries are [laughter] men just kind of confusing and there's it's there you don't have any good tests sometimes to tell whether something is an independent worker him or not [noise] so they can be a little <unk> that's why that may be one reason why the chinese counts by characters instead of words for a document and things like that [noise] yeah [noise] um [noise] anyway i think that is [noise] i think we have gone on for a very long time on this topic and giving people a few good things do you want to get people homework to making isolating language if people want to be more than happy to see that in that we get something is making it isn't is the last one but by a different person this time [laughter] [laughter] that would be fine i just the next time you're thinking you know spend some time looking at these language and just a great deal of really interesting stuff you can do without producing words of seventy two so tremendously gigantic <unk> [noise] yeah not that not that there's something wrong with that is you know i'm not saying [noise] doing well yeah i think i've seen too many people bad mouthing isolating and analytic languages i make the main thing is we're saying that they're sort of a biased <unk> community towards the more sympathetic languages and we want people to use the [noise] the full spectrum of what's available for language sure i mean i have no idea you know if there were lots of <unk> there's maybe they would make only isolate language is just because it wasn't my language [laughter] possible there's a bias among english speakers to go for these really rich morphological i sometimes think english speakers that more [noise] i think well my this is gonna be alive i last saw it on this i think actually because we are art liners mhm aren't lingers probably have this biased more than i think <unk> probably go more isolating pretend they're always <unk> [noise] it's easier yeah it's easier to learn [noise] um but then [laughter] well [laughter] but sometimes it can get confusing yes um anyway so there's something i think maybe some people there is something that were elegant about one more that means in the deep lucy rather than having <unk> three different words to explain the ocean like maybe they like that one word like in the in <unk> in the woods and their whole um maybe elvis has um claim i'm not <unk> but i know has um some of those things especially in <unk> um [noise] yeah we could go on about that for a while yeah oh you can <unk> we we could we could sort of <unk> go on with this this is going down or <unk> going away from the topic and i'm going to go away from the topic but into something else but we have planned which is we have a feature <unk> believe it or not [noise] ah so can we move on and talk about is [noise] uh <unk> <unk> <unk> i think so uh you know um it's an exciting <unk> where uh stress actually [noise] uh <unk> it was okay no judgement no judgement [noise] it'd be nice to know [laughter] okay we are we are critiquing uh [noise] so did volunteer going out that he did not uh bother to <unk> i don't care what is i just wanted to tell us i mean it's it's [noise] um so we actually scour the internet to find an isolating language to go with our topic [noise] can be <unk> hard yeah yeah i mean what isolating it's not it's not it's not near the ideal i would think but it's it's isolating to point that it's interesting handle it and certainly in with it oh i um analytic yes definitely the the problem is there are some i switch on one isolating language but it was one of the <unk> peterson so we've already talked about like just that we can do that [noise] um i mean we could eventually but i think we need to do more shows before we start going back to the same language and the second one or two other topics that are quite large so quick near in some way [noise] uh-huh [noise] they may know ain't naturally all naturalistic languages so [noise] do you are earning it's always kind of ah [noise] difficult to deal with it so why don't we still kind of go through the same way we always do sorting fairly simple phonology i think [noise] um i don't believe [laughter] [noise] it has eight dollars extra there but it it <unk> and [noise] i think that <unk> know mentioned that came out okay i was wrong because the way it's presented here i was not thinking of how many are actually yeah it's it's not a complicated <unk> but it's not that it's not really that's cool oh i'm i'm curious about that but then they're <unk> they're i don't know maybe rounding <unk> they uh an hour on a very interesting uh how it is it's kind of funny there are fine but we'll which are not central lied and he [noise] that makes [noise] [noise] but <unk> station [noise] so [noise] so i i think he may have sort of um redid his vows system afterward and forgot to change something that's all [noise] i just don't think the recession is explaining how many <unk> there are so he went to behavior you yeah i think it's about the <unk> which uh which not that <unk> which are not centralized okay so he does have sucked solution is there any mention of the central <unk> [noise] i didn't notice any <unk> looking at ah this this page feels in some ways a little bit unfair but um [noise] i mean it's very it's very comprehension mhm [noise] yeah i'm pretty good and and we eat we eat <unk> so his way of dealing with role instead of a gigantic lifting or to [noise] uh which [noise] and and this is <unk> language is still fairly experimental mhm none of these role <unk> anything like what were you in in <unk> or or get a bachelor like mhm [noise] um so yeah there's <unk> agency and they use that goes on which gives you a lot of role marking <unk> many more than any natural language i know makes more subtle east between the coral morally considered decor rules yeah i would i would definitely say that this is [noise] this is uh an unusually <unk> large number of particles <unk> things that what he has in <unk> too <unk> too [noise] [laughter] we should have to [noise] do you know <unk> <unk> right gotcha yeah sneak in that are cool <unk> um <unk> marker which tells you that the <unk> middle oh okay that's cool [noise] [noise] i know human language or that occurs actually but it's an interesting thing i miss it at great strict <unk> [noise] uh-huh [noise] ain't code what do we eat in new york she'd market [noise] court room working rather mhm [noise] ah she does have new world class fires um but they don't really look like they're maybe they're down the er [noise] er [noise] that's something that you'd have to <unk> i think i saw his lunch time and he actually uh for all now she actually gives the neural classify her for st jew [laughter] excellent that's exactly what a dictionary you should do you know that's [noise] let me see [noise] you know it looks like yeah like um [noise] yeah and it's funny 'cause he has things like year has a has a um [noise] new rule class prior which rental properties year normally it it's um <unk> yeah that's what that's what i'm thinking but you know but he has doing which seems to be associated with time words and [noise] <unk> i tell you how many oh there's nothing worse than a chinese dictionary that doesn't tell you the measure word for now [noise] [laughter] oh yes now you you definitely it's it's very important if you're doing <unk> first because [noise] basically that's the way that that's the way that when you're doing translations you will <unk> yourself will know because they are generally attached with some logic behind them up with often sort of a ah [noise] i don't know i said um sort of a little bit of arbitrariness so yeah that's right you know it wasn't hard at french <unk> totally different master wait till you dungeons <unk> [laughter] [noise] yeah um what's nice about all of the articles which the other coast function article [noise] is there i don't always understand that but there are lots of examples [noise] [laughter] yeah well hopefully you can actually uh figure it out he has <unk> um five moods that'll make george <unk> [noise] yeah um it'll be it'll charming yeah well he doesn't give much examples of how they interact with things and such but that's what we had to i think he i don't know the authors no but they um have an editor em in l._a. where like most of the chinese varieties you have number <unk> fire now uh-huh where's and some of the <unk> type family languages now number class apart mhm which is what this language and it sure seems to me and this is just me speaking <unk> could be wrong it seems to me that in those languages follow this word order now number quite require <unk> indeed the classic <unk> become disjointed <unk> kind of like something oh okay or it's more likely to happen yeah i know oh shoot a quick question um <unk> <unk> they mention um <unk> bike english chinese pamela <unk> i know english or not really a <unk> at network on some of the others we talk about <unk> how <unk> how old is a nice rich morphological language either arabic bad yeah chairs outlook i was in fact er police that it was like yeah but i wasn't sure if they had and i mean i'm sure it was um it already grammar <unk> carried over um i'm sure that he he he brought some stuff into it um [noise] he has [noise] he has some derivation of <unk> morphology so who's like we talked about you can have plenty of derivation of morphology and learn a little inflexible morphology but so he has a list of ethics is that are used [noise] um [noise] in fact some of them uh a couple of them i think [noise] sort of have a uh oh some of 'em actually incorporate the costs are in them [noise] ah so that's interesting yeah he's into nominal yeah patient um what you're saying so we have a general in remote hacking future and this is my <unk> which is [noise] [noise] mhm [noise] [noise] [noise] oh he has a nice big turn on how compounding work [noise] i was just looking at that actually [noise] [noise] that's awesome yeah [noise] uh it's very important you tell us what <unk> combination and it looks like there's a lot of different uh compounding combinations that he can have [noise] although there's a few things like it looks like uh if there's a verb involved at comfortable for anything else [noise] uh but otherwise there's quite a few different combinations that have different slightly different meanings [noise] and then i'll go there to <unk> er about fear that aren't there was anything similar to that but he's or like <unk> read allowed up to um start uh word up my area but you know kinda <unk> mhm right [noise] um i think it's interesting is it has its stomach evidence geology <unk> unlike most common lakers like lots of evidence <unk> this is a simple direct versus indirect [noise] yeah yeah yeah i might <unk> she uses it by having these overt elopes missionary particles which are a bit you know what is it <unk> exactly [noise] um they indicate <unk> kinds of speech thing [noise] so it'll be <unk> very low key <unk> allows you to make a decision um okay like i claim that landed in even spain oh i see now right you making it [noise] and then there's an introduction look you sherry which appears to be simply just let it location topic like introducing your topic and then there's <unk> continue to indicate conversion yeah both both of those uh look like they're basically discourse functions [noise] frankly they look like <unk> <unk> <unk> <unk> highly <unk> the operating at the level of um discourse rather that dramatic role okay and now i see the icy below that the <unk> [noise] he has <unk> indirect that's what's nice although both of them are over [laughter] yeah not it mentioned about ah this this <unk> highly or english speakers what kind of like you <unk> do you do uh <unk> you know or <unk> no natural language that uses [noise] [noise] [noise] or is she range meeting [noise] go for <unk> for the chicken or idea of it you know you <unk> [noise] yeah i <unk> i don't know any language where you you just say something special except you know you say you know i clean this land the name of trans <unk> i know no language where you have a special articles saying that you're doing something or rather be saying okay i make sense that makes sense [noise] um yeah i would i would agree with you i would agree with you that um uh i i know much less about different languages but i just now heard the term <unk> location [noise] so [noise] i mean you're you're <unk> <unk> <unk> <unk> because he says uh they say uh called <unk> standard they use the location or <unk> i'm todd <unk> [laughter] okay so <unk> [noise] well i i'm hoping they're optional otherwise you're going to um sort of loaded up your second <unk> articles um yeah there's already over evidence reality there's already a bunch of [noise] yeah there's a bunch of different particles that uh end up in ah [noise] um if you look at the sentence structure that sort of interesting yeah but the introduction look you shouldn't <unk> continue to look <unk> like i say it sounds like which reference system which <unk> plenty of languages do mhm although this is less which represents which topic which is an interesting idea and i didn't know it they're natural language is a systematic raises language is any idea it's interesting i it'd be politically <unk> [noise] sounds something like subject tremendously useful in narrative <unk> a <unk> a lotta narration <unk> you know um <unk> and all that but we don't know yeah starting to tell from the examples that [noise] that's true [noise] it's possible that he um well let's see what [noise] the only things he has a few oh he is like a conversation and his translations huh that's interesting um some of the derivation elements are interesting some of them right but you know there's a lot of interesting idea mhm mhm [noise] [noise] oh there was something tremendously funky above mhm okay one quite far down to the <unk> <unk> <unk> <unk> <unk> the examples are both active in <unk> oh yeah i see that quite june to me [noise] maybe <unk> um looking at those articles or the sun was rolling rock clear it up like if it was um [noise] well not a bird [noise] but uh i don't know you don't have a list word type [noise] leisurely reading edited and advertise are the same class but they're not particularly like some ya i don't know how you would really mhm hey maybe it's that big of a sudden the contact <unk> yeah yeah oh i didn't think it leads to context but sure absolutely yeah mhm [noise] i think it's a very <unk> you know you can or you can arrange things sort of work [noise] um i don't know this is kind of ah [noise] this is not a very long <unk> <unk> so i can't really find any of those things i guess there's all these um there's particles for actually more than just comparative some <unk> i could have been expensive as well [noise] um [noise] interesting [noise] was uh oh there's nothing wrong to pronouns yeah well of course it was in her on her <unk> pronounce but there's something interesting on on oh <unk> you sort of combined them with you combine this please bear root [noise] see i'm tommy with other things so [noise] common yeah tommy tommy okay <unk> oh you have like at the y. can be uh something about seventy dollars or guard who like who could be translated is [noise] i mean <unk> basically what man or which man right which is a beautiful <unk> the [noise] that's less i was <unk> isolated you're around it like things that are these combination yes yeah um like i found a natural language is that you're not <unk> they're they just sit there like that's like that's awesome and it's i i would it again but she still would have thought that was a little dinky a little a natural but nope sure that you're like would you do <unk> you know <unk> [laughter] <unk> sort of sort of uh <unk> has [noise] lee has i think leigh has sort of a bleach meaning in that yeah but you you still have like the <unk> are you there [noise] anyway i think [noise] i think that's about all we can really say about pilots uh [noise] look at it yourself it's it's it's sort of a little bit of a scat but uh there's some interesting ideas <unk> nicer longer example yeah huge huge yeah uh what were you saying mike and i'll just say my niece my <unk> there are ways you <unk> different maybe pick and choose like oh i like the way that this works or oh that's interesting or i wouldn't have thought of doing that and just okay [noise] works nights example <unk> example <unk> analytical calmly yeah right um [noise] all right so can we move on to feedback oh all right um i got um this actually came to my uh personally mail but i'm going to uh <unk> about it on the show [noise] i'm not gonna read it out completely but um [noise] the author <unk> um <unk> um [noise] actually email this back and [noise] basically he was saying for one thing it has it been updated for a long time and the pages i think these are the pages <unk> using that er er hosted by infants <unk> [noise] <unk> ah the ones that are um that are more common that by the way the creators name is andrew smith [noise] um at least that's what's his what's on his email here [noise] um he says <unk> grammar is heavily based on romance languages with padded details borrowed from off slept sort of uh drives in with what are sort of a <unk> you know mostly romance but with the well found changes in [noise] maybe a few loan <unk> um on occasion [noise] grammar [noise] um well below mutations came from <unk> um well i mean like the <unk> yeah um they said i was especially delighted to here three cheers for animal logical spelling there was that i wanted to preserve and the creation of <unk> [noise] uh so i'm pleased with that accomplishment and i'm sorry to say that i have not investigated uh creating audio files so it can't provide you with anything like that [noise] yeah um it was fine um and i think we said at the uh during that show like [noise] i usually do not go forward and i'm a logical smiling but i usually put languages into self contained com world when you put it into the real world i think and logical spelling is great because it's going to happen [laughter] honestly that's one of the things i find irritating often about invented writing system mhm is there to clean [noise] there to claim it's a natural reclaim it is unnaturally clean in order to make yeah is it ventured writing systems definitely happened that i think that that's actually a good thing to do for a <unk> but when you're making a rating system [noise] or when you're writing a language that logically is written in the <unk> <unk> <unk> you should do a little bit of the animal logical stuff [noise] [noise] [noise] like two sentences sneak back which is i listen to the news and appreciation [laughter] but i think he gave the language it fair judgement that so they wouldn't let her language mick [noise] okay [noise] um <unk> that's about all we have to say um well i'll i'll ask him if we can uh put this since he emailed it to me and not to con language email that calm [noise] i'm not certain if he actually wants us to ah to like <unk> there's always email so i'll ask him but uh [noise] if he agreed to that then that will be in the show that um [noise] in any case i think that's [noise] an episode and we say william do you have any final would words wisdom [noise] didn't have any <unk> this week i was gonna say i am going to be at worldcom in chicago this year which is over labor day weekend that right yeah yeah we can um talking about the but the other <unk> going let us know [noise] i don't know there's going to be an official appearance language creation society [noise] whether or not uh david peterson which is not certain at this point but [noise] maybe mhm how come like fun <unk> if they can be there if if there's official else yes people are which i think that might be going on then [noise] that'll be great they would not uh i expect william as a member that you will get some flyers [noise] sure [noise] um but ah and hand them out but [laughter] yeah that's great i'm not gone to any congress' [noise] as far as i know in the near future [noise] but uh [noise] her conventions sorry right um uh but that's that's cool if you guys if anybody's gonna worldcom [noise] let it get in touch with william [noise] i uh [noise] i've actually never heard of a sudden to look that up [laughter] yeah ah and they're the people who gives a huge of a woman [laughter] lots of lots of size five people will be there isn't it yeah i mean if i can manage on <unk> yeah um [noise] my <unk> was uh pretty much just type things and see how or some <unk> keep coming in [noise] and i'm going to say happy on line [noise] you have been listening to on line or you can find the <unk> all previous offices at <unk> dot com including links to our future go online and a few resources you make sense of today's topic you're also find links to subscribe to us on high tuned or through on a <unk> <unk> <unk> and plus they do spend a whole lot more questions commonsense ingestion maybe <unk> dot com you can also submit those translated greetings we play the top of the show or concerts display in our head er police even contribute paid for detail [noise] thanks for listening [noise] but very strong [laughter] energy um okay if someone just although i <unk> i worked at my desk and i'm sorry about that right well george in edited out [laughter] [noise] oh yeah where you're where you're saying is that says <unk> demons <unk> [noise] yeah that's why i was like oh [laughter] well you should remember that for a long time creating secret languages in china was the capital of <unk> i mean before had if those are the chinese i thought <unk> <unk> do do do do do do you think it but it's nothing like that right [laughter] right people get [noise] people have strange ideas about this one was like oh i was going to end up uh what four times four times it's not a big deal [laughter] [noise] i i think when you get um [noise] what do you have and i'm like <unk> the homes it started i sound very musical i'm sorry i'm sniffle in my left over the weekend off my air freshener arm so now it's like really powerful <unk> overwhelmingly cherry sensitive ear [laughter] that's kind of gross that would make me nauseous just mute and blow your nose a few times that will be fine i'll i'll do this all do it i'll do it uh <unk> i'm just going to leave it and come back to it and hope that the madness we'll have disappeared i have to say uh uh not to like pick on anybody but it seems like final words of wisdom is a little bit less fun without running gag of beyond can never has anything to say

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Conlangery Podcast/Conlangery 47 Practicum — Isolating and Analytic Languages (last edited 2017-09-07 12:01:34 by TranscriBot)