Conlangery SHORTS #08: A Pahran grammaticalization idea

Conlangery SHORTS #08: A Pahran grammaticalization idea

Published: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 04:00:56 +0000 \

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utterance-id1 [noise] [noise] <unk> <unk> learning to people and that's all right now they're saying they know they're short but uh oregon are just what you grow up very quickly forgotten match you up to be talking about this but l. c. c. five is going to be this coming weekend this gas publishes on may force in austin texas if you've been planning on going i'm sure that everybody may but their tickets and registered and all that stuff but there's going to be um internet read or all those people can't make it out there physically which includes me ah which which i'll let you in the show so that will be <unk> looks like there's you can be lots of people the david peterson will be there or [noise] gym henry uh tony harris <unk> uh currently well that very well known uh was in the community uh will be presenting thing uh uh and uh looks like it's going to be interesting uh triple thick [noise] so what's that don i'm going to hurt shoe box like a little bit more [noise] <unk> at least more more in terms of my personal [noise] lot of people have <unk> yeah <unk> that's too teachers don't worry when you talk about uh two or well i'm gonna throw out idea this is a little different from what i've done [noise] throw up and see what people think about it so the language i've been working on uh i haven't got a really back to work at the <unk> school now the thing is <unk> which uh is it my parents you grow up you know to detail about culture and stuff but i'm thinking of the population [noise] ah last week i was considering something [noise] i don't think i'm going to make it or at least i'm not one <unk> the street the uh in your life [noise] but i've thought of short of having a a a short changed the increases a little bit uh uh no more creek word <unk> increasing the more he coworker issue but ah as a little bit more questions um so i just wanted throws up basically what i'm working with is the stage i'm at right now i'm working on uh historically in stages which is something i haven't and right now i've sort of created like race [noise] heard of lying at least the phonology of it so that i can just did not show that i can generate work and then change them and then up to what i may end up calling short of equal stage or they'd be colt by a a name or what [noise] i've i've been uh showing it around the name uh started started to be in my kid recently i'm not sure if i'm gonna get that one but um [noise] basically uh and early early and such a [noise] probably weren't up the earliest written forum and i already have in that language i have the al <unk> um what do you call it the the inverse marching where you've have aspects does that mean uh you know first person object second person first person subject second object uh such um subject third object and i have a third subject for fourth person object fourth person being an offer you do uh <unk> know what that means basically like uh uh uh second third person argument further away from the start dispersed but anyway and there's a suffix that wall which the order um yeah fishes crib from <unk> which is probably messed with it a little bit look look further into some these languages how they work to shoot refined but what i was thinking uh keep the inverse marching system for marquee subject object that's already collie personal but one other thing that [noise] yeah inflicting propositions ah so the propositions in cochran agree with the person and number of there now you might think about this thing where where am i going um they also drug or on um my idea is to take one of these inflicting proposition and sort of you know how in english we used to walk to denote <unk> indirect i'm thinking that an old <unk> you'll have that one of these propositions marking an indirect object and then somehow that gets lumped onto the and that would create an object just thinking about that now you should go even further and take one of the look at it [noise] <unk> makes they look at it uh i don't know <unk> that part but um [noise] you can see where this is going right now i have a few different ones looking at the um [noise] her positions i have i only have a few but [noise] of the ones that i have i have who looks best to make sort of a um [noise] the the best one shoe make into like a day at work or is it means like to war but i don't know i may go with something a little less obvious like um i have <unk> which means in or ah ah that would that could be a little <unk> or i could make another one that's purely proposition that attaches to indirect object somehow uh maybe a benefactor type thing [noise] literally becomes a data but is that is what i am thinking oh right well [noise] i just wanna throw up yeah yeah see what people are sort of uh our way to shoot in one other uh one other sort of argument that gets more directly on the burger term britain ah and it would make for um some very interesting agreement <unk> 'cause obviously what i have for the uh the fucking <unk> or the you know i have basically what starts out as a proposition plus [noise] hey ah pronoun and those <unk> short of fuse together and with sound changes make some really interesting thing my my favorite one is is uh meaning of work from right now because it has uh some little just going through the senor forms we have first person i've thought second person a third person lab that's a circus animals and third person and and uh but i don't know how i could put that into the bird so i don't know if i'll use that the <unk> which i was actually thinking of is using that data ah would end up um they the the just going through singer for me again has all cool uh <unk> and <unk> that's that's still um sort of interesting and of course those would get further mangled what sound changes and end up <unk> very interesting and not not sort of generic subjects you but it's one of those things were adding the history might you might uh make for something that uh somebody looking at a later foreign language that eventually construct <unk> mm what's going on there so that was an idea but i had <unk> out there and see what other people think about it uh i probably will short of work on developing this idea awesome on if i get back to work on it but uh i will i i i really would like to get a little bit of feedback on on this thing and i made it a <unk> searching i spotted could be short provoking thing people who want to look at <unk> just things and maybe you want to be sort of you know and and maybe it'll inspire people to think of other sort of creative ways to do <unk> things but then any change whether whether this inspires you or the bridges you or uh you think there's a better way for me to do this you know you can always email <unk> and whatever you like to do i'm just gonna say everybody have in common [noise] thank you for listening to on line or you can find our our cars and <unk> dot com you can send comments poor topic or features language suggested to con liner 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