Conlangery SHORTS #15: Mixed Languages

Conlangery SHORTS #15: Mixed Languages

Published: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 04:00:53 +0000 \

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utterance-id1 [noise] [noise] <unk> ah just by lectures lucrative i'm george carlin uh and this is a short episode today [noise] first of all before i get into the action so i'm saying i'm going to say hey karl leg has an entry and the oxford english dictionary all uh for the lincoln the shows that um it's ah it looks like it's like you know one of those definitions where because it's an abbreviation they just put a queen or two constructed language and such but hey it's documented and the <unk> that's good and they site mm they each they even like uh using that stuff from nineteen ninety one so that's cool but anyway that's the topic of the show what i wanted to uh talk about is something that i i i realized was missing one we talked about uh pigeons and creoles in the last episode um and uh things to ah christine trier for money may as well in the comments that episode um what we talked about mainly in that show was the classical <unk> process which involves a certain kind of contact situation and also results in something where you get all of your life like material from one language usually your language and has a lot of <unk> and the grammatical material may be partially influenced by the shore languages and partially just completely new made on the spot there are other kinds of contact languages that occur i'm not talking about foreign here i'm talking about new language is still ah that are called mixed languages nicole mixed languages because they're more <unk> what's one mixed language is more actually like piecemeal so uh there are a few examples of this in the america's uh the <unk> i i've seen one mentioned called a metric <unk> korean french uh the one i want to talk about right now because i've been reading a little bit about it is uh what's called copper i'll <unk> i'll eat it is a mixed language that involves russian and <unk> because it's um <unk> situated on copper island uh which is uh it's it looks like it's sort of part of the illusion chain so you know that chain of island stretches out from alaska um and um so it's sort of between russia in alaska and basically it's a little foggy i'm on the history of it but apparently there was a russian calling me there for a while and they mixed with the the local highly you said then russian left but they left behind uh <unk> well they left behind creoles in the in the old um a sense of the word is it applies to people in is that it was people who uh of of russian ancestry who were born in that little colony and those people and again it's a little five year on the details exactly why or why this language arose it seems to be that there were sort of some sort of a group of people that got special status as sort of go between between the russians lose but these people uh came to speak a language that were calling <unk> i'll you'd also cold uh mid year uh highly <unk> i'm not sure if i'm saying that correctly but the the interesting fact that everyone likes to point out about it is the nominal inflection system is ellie but the verb inflection system is from russia [noise] now that's not the only way that it's mixing but you just said to point this out so basically they're still a little bit of sort of simplification and and and change too it it borrowed from the the article that i rented all lincoln the show routes it looks like it borrowed the the present tense inflections of russia and then some some parts of the past tense paradigm put their that may have been uh somewhat reanalyze <unk> didn't borrow the entire system but it borrowed some chat substantial chunks of the system it didn't you know you know whereas a classic creole typically takes mostly just lexical material and generate new grammar in order to make it into a language sometimes sometimes they inherited a little bit of a grammar it's their language they're close together and such like that for <unk> it's like you took her medical system russian grafted it yeah and the other thing about it is that it's not a classic <unk> it doesn't have a clear lexus fire uh and again uh the article i i will lake has sort of a breakdown of how um how different certain parts of speech and stuff are dominant uh russian or out again the instructional systems for now <unk> <unk> <unk> for verbs are russian but that doesn't it's not borrowing all rushing verbs and then using <unk> they're still they're still barring going on in both senses of that and that there are highly uh verbs and uh russian amounts that made it into language but they still are carrying the instructional systems are the two languages but <unk> it's sort of like you know you end up with things like uh highly roots that with russian past tense uh <unk> she tacked on to it it's interesting things actually yeah i will lick that in the <unk> i just wanted to highlight it very quickly i might we might some day to a a feature on that if i could find more material on uh on uh <unk> highly um but so far what i saw was a little bit of social linguistic information and um and uh a little bit of a grammatical description uh sort of uh uh dramatic whole sketch that's mostly focusing on the contact affects ah so i thought i would point that out to people um there there are other languages like there's a language that people site called uh <unk> korean french and i i didn't read so much on that but apparently the the <unk> are more french quarter and the verbs are more free in that one um and i'm sure that you can find examples where it's not um real system of what language and verbal system of another language and that's not necessarily what i'm trying to point out here when i'm just trying to point out is the idea of you can have things that are not like a creole one that they told create a whole new language out uh just purely lexical material you can have you couldn't have these sort of piecemeal things going on these sort of i don't know if there are quite as common as career goals though but it's a different thing and so uh i just wanted to fill in that little hole but we are talking about that that we left when we're talking about pigeon grills and uh i didn't want to make it look like <unk> is the only way to languages could murdered so to speak for a number of languages foods murder so to speak [noise] um so [noise] in any case i hope you guys like set up so and i think i'd like thank you for listening to con lingering you could find our archives ensure notes at <unk> dot com you can send questions comments more topic or featured language suggestion [noise] she was <unk> i just emailed dot com [noise] to submit a con line ordinary lying breeding for the top of the show see our contribute paid for details [noise] <unk> provided by the language creation society and our theme music is by no device [noise]

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